Burning to dual Layer discs

[Mastablastacious]

Any suggestions on having high success rate on Dual layer disks? I just had 2 coaters and have had a few before these are expensive disks too! I am using nero data disc burn, or a program called imgburn... Any suggestions how to get a higher percentage success rate on these types of discs?

[aedipuss]

stick with imgburn and only use verbatim +r dl, anything else is a waste of money.

[sikoone]

Aedipuss is right. Imgburn and Verbatim are the way to go. You may also want to look at this Guide. It's never failed me.

[wtsinnc]

What program are you using to rip the disc? Follow the advice from previous posts and use Imgburn + Verbatim DL only. Because you are burning to dual layer, compression isn't necessary. If you aren't using it already, use DVDFab Decrypter, a great free application that's updated regularly.

[Mastablastacious]

ok, this guide is great for dvd's but what about burning single 8 gig fils to a dual layer disk.. That is different will it mess the file up if you have the 32 kb blank segment in? or will it still be fine..

[Mastablastacious]

my pgceditor program is not linking to my imgburn you know where i can link them in the options i cant find it!!

[Mastablastacious]

am having an issue getting into the one time setup of my program locations

[wtsinnc]

I've never used pgceditor, but looking at the program interface makes me want for something simplier. Download/install the trial version of DVDFab Platinum and play with it for a couple of weeks. Some have reported experiencing repeated problems burning DL media with DVDFab Platnium, but I have had no issues burning the Verbatim 2.4x speed dual-layer with my LG GSA-H42N and GSA-H10N drives. I also have a Samsung SH-S202G which I haven't yet tried with a dual-layer DVD. All of the burners that I have used are IDE interface. If you are using SATA burner(s), there are other considerations but I am not versed on that topic.

DVDFab Platnium is the only single application that I know of that is capable of ripping a DVD either compressed or uncompressed to the HD and then supporting within the same interface burning to DVD 5 or 9. The program is regularly updated, the simplicity is awesome, and the user is given various ripping and target options but this is not freeware.

If you want free, download/install DVDFab HD Decrypter and Imgburn. If you need to compress files to fit on DVD 5 media, also download/install DVD Shrink or perhaps DVD Rebuilder free version. I have used Shrink but not Rebuilder so I can't comment about it's effectiveness, but many in these forums say it is the very best program to use for quality burns. DVD Rebuilder is available as a full featured paid application or you can download a free version with less functionality (also requires the Cinemacraft plug-in). Do your research and play around with these programs as well as (perhaps) the trial versions of CloneDVD2 and AnyDVD from Slysoft. Still another rip and burn application which I have used successfully with DL media is 1clickdvdcopy pro with the free application DVD43. 1clickdvdcopy is not freeware, but it has worked well for me for over two years with a variety of burners.

In the final analysis, the key factors will be quality media (Verbatim, Verbatim, Verbatim for dual-layer burning) and Verbatim and/or Taiyo Yuden for DVD5 (4.7gb) single layer discs for consistant quality performance. Other brands may work well with certain burners, but Verbatim and TY seem to work with just about any burner.

In the final analysis, you will be able to rip and burn with either paid-for or free applications. I prefer simplicity, so while I have used all of the freeware applications mentioned in this post (except for DVD Rebuilber), I have settled on splitting time among 1clickdvdcopy pro/dvd43, CloneDVD2/AnyDVD HD, and DVDFab Platnium (all work with Verbatim dual-layer discs). I don't want the exercise to be about setting up and maintaining complicated programs and their associated processes in order to achieve the absolute maximum level of quality; I am willing to accept the "stock" output from the programs I use to blank DVDs and so far, they look just fine to me. Good luck in your quest.

[[_chef_]]

ok, this guide is great for dvd's but what about burning single 8 gig fils to a dual layer disk.. That is different will it mess the file up if you have the 32 kb blank segment in? or will it still be fine..

What exactly should that mean?

[Mastablastacious]

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ok, this guide is great for dvd's but what about burning single 8 gig fils to a dual layer disk.. That is different will it mess the file up if you have the 32 kb blank segment in? or will it still be fine..

What exactly should that mean?

the 32 kb segment is to ensure good burning between the 2 layers when they are switching over it givces a small pause instead of having the 2 layers run together clean.. My issue is I am trying to burn single x264 files to a dual layer disc like for example a single 8 gig media file... Any suggestions for a program for that? I am find Just burning these as data discs.. I am more then covered for how to burn a regular dvd from your guys info thanks!

[VegasBud]

Mastablastacious,

The 32k gap is just so an IFO and its' associated BUP aren't in the same ECC block. Doing it that way makes the error correction more robust.

If you want to burn one large file to a dual layer disk, use ImgBurn in "Build" mode. For the filesystem select UDF only (no ISO9660), then select the file to burn.

[Mastablastacious]

trying build mode now ive seriously just wasted like 6 dual lay er disks i hope this works thanks

[VegasBud]

Mastablastacious,

As long as you make certain that ISO9660 isn't involved, and the file system is just UDF...if the file will physically fit on a dual layer, it will work.

[Mastablastacious]

oh yes vegasbud you are a life saver.. what is the difference doing your files in build mode like this? cant i burn all my files like this even dvd movie files?

[Mastablastacious]

dude i cant believe this is the only way to get my burns to work... I got a ton of other progs i can pretty much run everything in build mode udf wow that is amazing man i have like 6000 burning programs to uninstall

[Mastablastacious]

yes vegasbud the way you said works so good i dont think i will lever burn any files outside of udf build mode again!! atleast not for dual layer

[jman98]

I hate to rain on your parade, but please note that some standalone DVD players won't play UDF format discs unless UDF version 1.02 is used. I have no idea how to make ImgBurn use that specific UDF version. I use PgcEdit to create my ISOs before burning and it does create UDF version 1.02 ISOs. I just point this out as it can be a problem on some DVD players. Some software burners default to UDF version 1.05 I think and this has been reported to be a problem with some players.

[VegasBud]

That's correct. Since the dvd-video specifications mandate v1.02 for the UDF part of UDF Bridge, any standalone player that complies with the specifications will handle v1.02, but they are not required to handle any other version.

Fortunately, ImgBurn uses UDF v1.02, so that's not a problem. If you would like to verify that, put a disk that was burned with ImgBurn in your drive, set ImgBurn to "Read" mode, and on the left, near the top (where it says "File Sys:"), it will show you that v1.02 of UDF was used.

If you're not using ImgBurn, you need to figure out how to make sure the program is using only UDF v1.02 for dvd-video.

In the interest of full disclosure, the specifications also require the use of UDF Bridge (ISO9660+UDF) for dvd-video. However, the ISO9660 part was included solely to provide dvd-video playback compatibility in pre-windows98 computers that were around when the specifications were written. Standalone players are supposed to only use the UDF part of UDF Bridge. As a result, you're unlikely to have a problem these days with a dvd-video disk that only uses UDF. Nevertheless, it's best to stick to the specifications and use UDF Bridge for dvd-video unless you have a compelling reason not to do so.

For data disks, you aren't required to use UDF Bridge, and UDF (by itself) is fine.

[[_chef_]]

yes vegasbud the way you said works so good i dont think i will lever burn any files outside of udf build mode again!! atleast not for dual layer

UDF were created for DVD and you never ever can burn a file larger than 2gb if not using UDF (1.02 is most compatible).

[Mastablastacious]

well I love udf then, udf is the greatest