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    I had some video I had shot and converted to digital AVI. I wanted to send the entire thing to someone, in AVI format, so he could edit it and use it as he desired.

    Every time I tried to burn an 8 gigabyte chunk of the video (the whole thing ran 13-14 gigs) the disk failed.

    Can you only burn a file as large as one layer - say, 4 point something gig - onto a single layer? So a DVD-DL disk can only take that large a file, burned to a single layer? Yes, you might add a bunch of files that are smaller on the other layer, but you must fit your largest file on a single layer because they don't overlap when reading or writing?
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    you could try burning it as a data disc vs video disc.
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    I'm not 100% sure but I think you may have to burn as data in UDF mode. The other choice is to break the original down into smaller chunks using Winrar.
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  4. File size limit:

    ISO format: 2 GB
    UDF format: 4 GB
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    Take a look at max file size support under fat32 for win98 ... if your pc specs are acurate .

    You might beable to use vdub to split it in direct stream copy mode for both video and audio , provided it was compressed using a suitable codec , then burn them as data ... provided the fat32 max file size limit dosent get in the way
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    His pc specs must be wrong because the FAT32 file size limit wouldn't let him have an 8GB file in the first place.

    I think the question is, and I must admit I would also like to know the answer to this, can a file larger than a single layer capacity be burned onto a DL disc? If it is a DVD, it will have a layer break at a specific point, but if it is simply a data disc containing one very large file, does it still need a layer break point defining?
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  7. Originally Posted by Richard_G
    the question is, and I must admit I would also like to know the answer to this, can a file larger than a single layer capacity be burned onto a DL disc?
    Not unless you come up with your own file system. I gave the limits for the two most common DVD file systems above.
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    Originally Posted by Richard_G
    If it is a DVD, it will have a layer break at a specific point, but if it is simply a data disc containing one very large file, does it still need a layer break point defining?
    To add:
    A DL dvd video disc, even with a layer break, does not have files larger than what ? 1gb ? it is all split up into several VOB files, not one large 6-8gb file.
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    Yes, I agree with that, but we aren't talking about a DVD video disc, we are talking about a data file. On a hard drive formatted to NTFS, I can store files of virtually any size. Is there any way that I can burn a file of, say 8GB, onto a DL disc?
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    Maybe no help, but if you have access to a miniDV camcorder, why not "print to tape"? Sure, other questions exist, but it is an option. Sounds like you have about 1 hour of DV there.
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    tomreedtoon,

    You can burn a single file sized up to the capacity of a dvdr dl if you use the UDF file system only and use +RDL media. To minimize the headaches, I would recommend you only use Verbatim +RDL, and ImgBurn. In ImgBurn, using "Build Mode", select the Options tab, and in the combo box at the top (labeled "File System"), select UDF (last entry on the drop down list). Then select the file you want to burn. That sequence of steps will keep ImgBurn from giving you an error message concerning the 4 GB limit of ISO9660.
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    Wikipedia says:

    What is the maximum size for a file under UDF file system?--Ctac 07:52, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

    * I think it's 1 GiB - and I base that solely on how DVD video files are segmented. Don't trust me. Tokachu 00:09, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
    o Actually, it's 16 EiB. VOB files on DVD Video discs are broken up into 1 GiB chunks for backward compatibility with ISO 9660 and legacy operating systems. —Ghakko 15:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
    + The reason for 1 GiB chunks has nothing to do with backwards compatibility. In a file's allocation descriptors that describe the chunks a file is composed from, the length of a piece is 30 bits wide i.e. 1 GiB since the top two bits are used to hold flags telling its allocated, freed, free or if its specifying a continuation descriptor. Reinoud 22:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
    * To answer the question, the maximum size of a file is indeed 64 bits i.e. 16 EiB though only when sparse. Current UDF versions upto 2.60 allow only one writable physical partition descriptor thus limiting the size to 32 bit sector numbers i.e. with 2 KiB sectors this makes 32+11=43 bits giving 8 Tib. When multiple physical partiton descriptors are allowed an additional 16 bits are available giving 59 bits i.e. a half EiB spanning the whole disc. Reinoud 22:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
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    There's a nice, not-too-technical document named "UDF_Whitepaper.pdf" by Software Associates (one of the key members of OSTA that helped develop the UDF specification) that gives the maximum filesize restriction as 128 terabytes. Google should be able to locate the document for anyone who's interested.
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    Use HJSplit to split and rejoin later. http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/

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    Pretty much covers every need as I see it.

    I'd just whack the file into 2 Gig bits and put four to a disk.
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    Richard_G,

    Sorry, I forgot to answer your question:
    ...if it is simply a data disc containing one very large file, does it still need a layer break point defining?
    That's correct. There's still a layer break, but since it's a data file, ImgBurn just divides the total file size by 2, and adjusts the layer break (if necessary) so it falls on a ECC block boundary. As a result, user input isn't required, and you won't even see the layer break selection window in ImgBurn.

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    Thank you for providing a link to that paper. I swear I'm not lazy...just kind of busy right now.
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  16. VegasBud -- you provided the exact name so the file was easy to find.

    I was able to burn a 4,491,771,904 byte (a little over 4 GB) file to a single layer UDF format DVD+RW.
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    UDF allows files at least as large as the disc itself. I've burned quite a few large files to SL and DL media.
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    Yeah I'm not sure why everyone is having problems burning large files. I've burned 8GB DV-AVI files too, to dual-layer. I've never had problems and use Nero or ImgBurn to burn. Tom needs to provide us with more info on his steps to burn the disc. Was he even using data mode?

    To split files, you can also use WinRAR and split them into a size you prefer and burn these to discs. I sometimes do this and add recovery volumes to it on separate discs. So if one disc fails, I can still recover with the others.
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    UDF format allows you to fill the entire disc with one large file (8.5GB on DVD+R DL discs).

    ISO only supports up to 2GB files.

    I use Nero 7.5 and have burnt dozens of 8GB WMV files on Verbatim DVD+R DL discs in UDF format with no problems.
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    Originally Posted by tomreedtoon View Post
    ...digital AVI...
    Huh? "Digital AVI"? What's that? Is that like... there's such a thing as an "analog AVI"?
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    Have you thought about digital avi for 6 years?


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    Uhh, NOPE!

    But have YOU?!
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    I think he was referring to the numbskull who dug up a thread from 2007 to add that bit of wisdom....

    Oh wait!!

    That was you!!!



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    Numbskull = YOU!


    Oh, really, huh? I didn't "dig" anything up. It just came up when I was looking for some help on something. Who the hell CARES how old the previous response is? I couldn't care LESS about that! Why should you?

    Why don't you go beg for money under the freeway somewhere?


    (Despite your dumb, rude response, I'm glad I'm having a nice Memorial Day.)
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