Pal and NTSC Camcorder

[NightFire]

I was playing around with a PAL mini DV tape in a Sony DCR-TRV19 camcorder and it played fine on the LCD. When I tried to use the camcorder outputs or the firewire (using DVIO) the captured video was not right. Using the outputs with ATI MMC the video was B&W except PAL-B which had colour but not what it should be. Using the firewire produced colour but in Windows Media Player Classic the video was all blocky (couldn't make out picture) and GSpot shows 29.9 framerate. Are there any multi-format mini DV camcorders or possibly hacked ones? If the camcorder can display PAL then surely there must be a way to capture it. Is there maybe a different way to capture the firewire to get the proper output?

[NightFire]

Well I tried DvApp instead and it works! It isn't the easiest program to use but start playing the tape and then run the program. Pause the output and set where you want to record and what file type (DV1 or DV2). Then hit the play button again (can be done in DvApp to run camcorder) and then hit record. This outputs a PAL compliant file (720x576 at 25 frames/second) but I cannot copy back onto a new mini DV. DvApp gives me an error about the input file. Anyway now my questions is has anybody else experimented with their NTSC camcorder and PAL? What are some other better possible capturing software to do this with? Has anybody tried SECAM?

[edDV]

SONY has always said PAL DV won't transfer from an NTSC deck. Some models play to the LCD but not to output.

[NightFire]

Well that's what I thought but it works. Using GSpot I get 720x576, 25 frames/second and 50 fields/second. Is there a way to test if it is true PAL and not just some quasi PAL output? On camcorder info there is a sticky about NTSC/PAL camcorders and apparently most Sony camcorders do this. It's too bad nobody has created a list of what camcorders will play PAL and NTSC because they seem to exist.