MPEG2 Encode Options

[kippard]

I'm encoding some Microsaoft DV AVI files for DVD, my options are Adobe MPEG Encoder, TMPGEnc and CCE. I was thinking I'd use CCE but which is best?

Thanks again videohelp.com
kippard

[guns1inger]

Adobe's encoder is Mainconcept's under license from Premiere Pro onwards. Of the three, CCE is by far the fastest, but for DV I would probably favour the Mainconcept encoder.

[kippard]

Thank you guns. I'm curious, what is your second choice? 8)

[guns1inger]

CCE. Tmpgenc is just too slow for me. I used to use it many years ago, but they have never improved the speed of it.

My top choice isn't in your list - Procoder or Procoder express.

If you were going to use tmpgenc, install the Debugmode Frameserver for Premiere so you can frameserve directly from the timeline and not have to render to AVI inbetween. Saves time and saves the risk of quality losses.

[kippard]

Thanks again guns.

Does Debugmode Frameserver work for any other encoders (Procoder)?

[edDV]

I'm encoding some Microsaoft DV AVI files for DVD, my options are Adobe MPEG Encoder, TMPGEnc and CCE. I was thinking I'd use CCE but which is best?

Thanks again videohelp.com
kippard

I'm curious about your process. "Microsoft DV AVI" ... are you using Premiere to edit the DV file or Movie Maker? Quality relates to capture technique and processing software.
Encoders don't differ as much as capture and editing process.

[kippard]

I'm using premiere to capture and edit DV. Thanks.

[julitomg]

I use Premiere 6.5 to edit, Debugmode Frameserver to convert right from the timeline to TMPGEnc and am very happy with the results...it may be a bit slower than other programs and CPU intensive but it´s not too complicated to use, doesn´t give me any problems and the quality of the results is great.

[kippard]

Adobe's encoder is Mainconcept's under license from Premiere Pro onwards. Of the three, CCE is by far the fastest, but for DV I would probably favour the Mainconcept encoder.

What setting do I want for a nice high quality 90 min program? CBR or VBR?

[guns1inger]

For 90 minutes I would be considering 2-pass VBR. For 224kbps audio, you get a video bitrate of 6548 kbps (using the Videohelp Bitrate Calculator -> http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm). This is starting to get too low for DV footage CBR encoding.

[kippard]

For 90 minutes I would be considering 2-pass VBR. For 224kbps audio, you get a video bitrate of 6548 kbps (using the Videohelp Bitrate Calculator -> http://www.videohelp.com/calc.htm). This is starting to get too low for DV footage CBR encoding.

The premiere/mainconcept settings are 7mb, 6mb, 4mb, 3mb. Thanks for the help guns.

[guns1inger]

6 is closest, 7 will put your over size. I am surprised that you cannot manually alter these. I don't use Premiere, however Vegas also licenses the Mainconcept encoder, and their implementation allows you complete freedom to adjust and tweak the encoder. I would suggest consulting your manual/help files to make sure you can't get finer control.

[kippard]

6 is closest, 7 will put your over size. I am surprised that you cannot manually alter these. I don't use Premiere, however Vegas also licenses the Mainconcept encoder, and their implementation allows you complete freedom to adjust and tweak the encoder. I would suggest consulting your manual/help files to make sure you can't get finer control.

Roger that, you're probably right, just looking at the presets. Many thanks.

[kippard]

My top choice isn't in your list - Procoder or Procoder express.

If I use Procoder in Premiere do I need to render previews of my video adjustments (brightness etc.) before I export directly with Procoder or will my effects be rendered in Procoder? Thanks.

[guns1inger]

If you use the ProCoder plugin for Premiere (I am pretty sure there is one) then you render straight of the timeline, with all adjustments etc intact. The same if you use the debugmode frameserver.

[kippard]

If you use the ProCoder plugin for Premiere (I am pretty sure there is one) then you render straight of the timeline, with all adjustments etc intact. The same if you use the debugmode frameserver.

There is and it is sweet, thanks again and again!