Panasonic AG-1970 on ebay $50 buy it now

[Don James]

Says it works

http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-AG-197...QQcmdZViewItem

[ROF]

and ?

Analog tape is so previous millenium museum quality stuff. At $50 it is overpriced. Look at the scratches all over the thing. It looks like it has been thrown across the house a couple times already. Probably plays a tape but because of the abuse the machine has obviously visibly suffered it won't be playing them for long.

[Don James]

and ?

Analog tape is so previous millenium museum quality stuff. At $50 it is overpriced. Look at the scratches all over the thing. It looks like it has been thrown across the house a couple times already. Probably plays a tape but because of the abuse the machine has obviously visibly suffered it won't be playing them for long.

Someone may want if for parts. DavidDeck has said that it's basically the same machine as a 1980 which many think is a good vcr. He may want it for parts.

[ROF]

Then let Davideck pay for an overpriced parts device. Personally I have seen better quality stuff sitting at the curb waiting to be picked up for free. The museum comment was just a joke anyways. But the comment about the looks of the device being thrown across a room is not. Look at it. It has more scratches and bruises than Bruce Willis did in Diehard.

[dadrab]

Probably scratches from having components sitting on top of it.

Clearly, though, no care was taken when stacking components on top of this unit.

I have stereo components over 30 years old that look way yonder better than this.

Still, scratches on the top cannot harm the internals, especially if someone needs a unit like this for parts.

[ROF]

Yeah, but $50? It's a tape deck from 20+ years ago.

[dadrab]

Yeah, but $50? It's a tape deck from 20+ years ago.

Agreed

[pijetro]

Don James wrote:

DavidDeck has said that it's basically the same machine as a 1980 which many think is a good vcr

The 1980 has a full frame TBC whereas the 1970 is a field based TBC..
The 1970 is more robust, solid and smoother running tape transport..But the 1980 is still a beautiful machine..

It's your choice..
I'd pay $50 for parts, assuming i had a room full of good working units. Other than that, you get what you pay for...[/b]

[gotnotime]

Why are wasting time on this? Its a used VHS player. Worthless, he should pay us to take it off his hands. I wonder if it has vacuum tubes? ZERO bids at ebay so far. If itssuch a value thn why haven't DavidDeck and pijetro placed bids.

Administrators, please remove this thread!!!

[pijetro]

As i can see by your username, your input is also equally useless..
Regardless of your useless opinion, my explanation of the difference between the two models of VCR alone should merit some validity to the thread...
Perhaps somebody will do a SEARCH function, and find my tidbit useful..

Obviously both you and ROF have never done serious backups of precious homemade videos..The 1970 is an important element in the process of good restoration..
The only request to the admins should be to move this thread, and not to muse your impatience by removing it...

What are you, some 12 year old or something??

[ROF]

As i can see by your username, your input is also equally useless..
Regardless of your useless opinion, my explanation of the difference between the two models of VCR alone should merit some validity to the thread...
Perhaps somebody will do a SEARCH function, and find my tidbit useful..

What are you, some 12 year old or something??

You are the one who is name calling and arguing with the facts that this is so old and so outdated that even you say in order to justify a $50 payment for it's parts(probably some of which no longer work right) you would need a full room of working units.

Whose acting like the 12 year old?

[ROF]

Obviously both you and ROF have never done serious backups of precious homemade videos.

The difference between you and me is I would not backup onto a piece of tape for a machine that is so hard to find nowadays that by the time I needed the backup I would be SOL to find a serviceable machine sans going to a tech museum. Actually, if this one was in better condition I bet a museum might make a bid.

[lordsmurf]

and ?
Analog tape is so previous millenium museum quality stuff. At $50 it is overpriced. .

This is the most clueless thing I've read on this site in a long time.

Good VCR + Good Capture Card + VHS tape = Good DVD

The Panasonic is one of many variables available to fill that first part of the equation.

THANK YOU FOR THE POST Don James. That is sure to help somebody.

[ROF]

Where is the good VCR part of the equation? As I said the thing looks abused. If you read the thread you would have saw that I said I was only kidding about the part you quoted. I guess you could change it to something less clueless.

[ozymango]

Where is the good VCR part of the equation? As I said the thing looks abused.

Yes, I agree -- anyone can see that there are scratches on top of this otherwise seemingly intact VCR. As we all know, most solidly built mechanical devices becomes useless when scratched, or dinged in any way. Why, your average 1980 Mercedes has almost no cash value once somebody keys the door!

[lordsmurf]

If itssuch a value thn why haven't DavidDeck and pijetro placed bids.

Probably for the same reason I don't bid for it: I already have good VCRs.

This whole thread was an earnest attempt to help others locate good VCRs, and I applaud the original poster for taking a few minutes of his time to do it.

It's a real shame all the dumbasses had to run here and leave stupid comments about how "worthless" VCRs are. This is the kind of crap that gives videohelp.com a bad name. People like this should leave, they're not actually helping anybody.

[Marvingj]

Don James, There are still Panny 1970-1980 still out there. One in excellent condition to very good will probably be close to $100 or more. The old saying is you paid for what you get. There's truth in that saying. Wait awhile Ebay always have deals. I brought a JVC 9800 in Almost new condition for $125.00. The owner was leaving the Country to Europe. There always great deals out there just be patience.

[Don James]

Don James, There are still Panny 1970-1980 still out there. One in excellent condition to very good will probably be close to $100 or more. The old saying is you paid for what you get. There's truth in that saying. Wait awhile Ebay always have deals. I brought a JVC 9800 in Almost new condition for $125.00. The owner was leaving the Country to Europe. There always great deals out there just be patience.

Thanks, I did find a perfect JVC S7600 for a fair price. And a S9800 that I have to send back. I posted another thread about black ominous lines in the images. I cleaned them really well yesterday and sadly it made no difference. Fortunately the seller is buying it back. For the record, it was flawless in appearance, not a scratch on it. Reminds me of a car I bought once that was perfect on the outside and needed a new engine

[gotnotime]

Still no bids at ebay on this item!

Since you decided to make this personal, I will defend myself. First, my point was meant to state that this forum is not itended to be a "for sale" site as outlined in the forum rules.

Second, the machine is quite "dated" and VHS recording systems rely on a rolling head system that will show marked deterioration over the years of use, and when it eats your tape you lose it.

By a decent new vhs and get better quality

[lordsmurf]

This is not a "for sale" site, but it is an information and education site, and as such, it's always nice for people to point out deals to one another. As long as you're not the seller.

Newer equipment does not mean better. In fact, more often, it means lesser quality. And no VHS machine can compare to an S-VHS machine. There is really no such thing as a "professional VHS" deck that would have all the filters and extras you see in these S-VHS decks.

I would put a 15-year-old professional head, with medium use, against a new VHS consumer head any day of the week. Most of the better S-VHS equipment I recommend, JVC decks, are now in the 5-10 year old range.

[SingSing]

Says it works
http://cgi.ebay.com/Panasonic-AG-197...QQcmdZViewItem

It does not say it "RECORD".