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  1. BuskerAlley.com zoobie's Avatar
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    I'm about to try to restore a sticky pan that also has a lake in the foreground. I was thinking of cutting at the stick then crossfading it to the next unsticky part.

    Any tips?

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  2. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
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    No way you can put a cutaway to break up the pan at that spot ?

    What software do you have available to you ?
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    Sounds like fades and cutaways to other fades and cutaways and some croping and zooming, just like in video editing. Eh, it all kind of depends on what you want and what you have to work with. If there is no live action change the speed maybe or do fades of stills and such.
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  4. BuskerAlley.com zoobie's Avatar
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    Maybe use some bleach?

    Yeah, I know...It's impossible to describe.
    Cutting away is not an option.
    Just have to experiment I guess...
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  5. Always Watching guns1inger's Avatar
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    how many frames does it stick for ?
    does it accelerate after it releases ?
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  6. BuskerAlley.com zoobie's Avatar
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    It's a 20 second pan
    4 or 5 sticks
    Sticks about one fourth to half a second per stick
    Doesn't appear to accelerate after the stick

    I didn't get to it last night...fell asleep

    Tonights the night I can get in there and experiment

    Just thought I'd ask for tips since this is my first attempt to cure several of these from a cheap travel tripod

    Thx
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    So is it a camera movement problem or a problem on the tape or file? Doesn't really matter, cut it at the last good frame and join it at the next good frame, seems simple huh? If it can't be blended smoothly maybe turn the whole pan into a a jerky stepped frame pan. move for two seconds, pause for two, repeat. Carefully place a pause at a natural bad spot to be able to edit it in or out.

    If you have the software to crop and and put every frame into the timeline you could crop it down to the lowest common veiw and rework it that way.

    This seems more like an artistic challenge, so I am doomed.
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  8. BuskerAlley.com zoobie's Avatar
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    Well, you forgot the water that's in the foreground. Any cut will show.

    I've thought about it now for a couple of days now.

    1)Trying to speed up just the sticks. No frames dropped.

    2)Good ol' crossfade so the water cuts don't show as much.
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    With Vegas you can use what they call supersampling to create transition frames -- basically I *think* as sort of an enhanced morphing. For that sort of thing it can be a bit of a hassle getting it to work right, but I've had acceptable results once or twice. For that matter if the scene's not too complex, might be able to get away with winmorph.

    Another guess might be if you still had access to the original footage to try other means of AD or capture depending on original format.
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  10. BuskerAlley.com zoobie's Avatar
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    I'll goof with the morph then, too.

    What would be nice is a little ap that determines when the pan has stopped in comparison to the previous frames and basically smooth the whole thing out

    Fortunately, fluid isn't sticky.

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