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  1. Member
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    Hi there, i am converting an xvid avi file. I am including a background and an image button.

    I have converted it and when i play back the burnt dvd, it's almost as if it's zoomed in slightly, ie it's not showing the same amount of video as the original Xvid does.

    Any ideas ?

    Thanks.

    Azza_b

    P.S. I've loaded the avi up into s2d again and clicked on it to get it's properties, they're listed as follows :

    Video Type : mpeg4
    TV Standard : PAL
    Resolution : 592x320
    Total Bitrate : 1076Kbps

    Audio Type : mp3
    Sample Rate : 48000
    Audio Bitrate : 160kbps

    I have edited my registry setting in the past to force a Full-D1 conversion, whether this has anything to do with it ?

    I've just thought that i may as well post the log!! Here it is :

    ************************* ProjectMetaData **************************

    <SVCD2DVD DateTime="09/01/2006 16:01:40"><AssetSet><Asset ID="e4a357ee-fa98-4252-955c-12eca1448b74" Path="C:\SVCD2DVD\assets" Filename="ahov.avi" /></AssetSet><DVDStructure><TitleSet Name="History" PostCmd="" MenuButtonType="1"><MenuButton X1="136" Y1="136" X2="398" Y2="185" FontFamily="Tahoma" FontSize="28" FontStyle="3">Menu Button</MenuButton><MenuImageButton X1="80" Y1="64" X2="307" Y2="400" ImagePath="C:\SVCD2DVD\menu images\history.jpg" /><Title Name="ahov.avi" AssetID="e4a357ee-fa98-4252-955c-12eca1448b74" MplexOffset="0" /></TitleSet><DVDMenu TVStandard="PAL" Normal="-1" Highlight="-65536" Active="-16711681" ShowPlayAllButton="False" DSOffsetWidth="1" DSOffsetHeight="1" DSColor="0" DSOnOff="True" BackgroundImagePath="C:\SVCD2DVD\backgrounds\idyll .jpg" AudioPath="" /></DVDStructure><Settings><General InitialAssetFolder="C:\SVCD2DVD\assets" InitialDVDFolder="C:\SVCD2DVD\dvd" InitialProjectFolder="C:\SVCD2DVD\projects" DeleteS2DFiles="True" UseDVDShrink="False" /><Menu AudioEncoding="Custom_mpa" DefaultCustomAudioPath="" DefaultCustomImagePath="" TVStandard="PAL" FontFamily="Tahoma" FontSize="28" FontStyle="3" PlayAllText="Play All" Loop="True" EncodeVideo2AudioDuration="False" /><Process AudioEncoding="mpa" Chapters="Every 30 mins" SkipMPA48="True" SkipAC3="True" PanSan="True" MergeTitles="False" UsePulldown="True" PAL2NTSC="False" AVI2PASS="False" AVI2HALFD1="FS" NoBframes_FullME="False" UseCustomMatrices="False" IntraMatrix="" NonIntraMatrix="" /><Program BINExtraction="vcdxrip" VCDGearFIX="False" FastAudioEncode="True" /><Burning BurningMethod="NONE" DVDDrive="HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4481B" NeroWriteSpeed="Max" Eject="True" HighDVDCompat="True" VerifyDVD="False" DVDDecrypterPath="" DVDDErase="True" DVDDClose="False" DVDDDontBurn="False" /></Settings></SVCD2DVD>

    ************************* ProjectMetaData **************************
    Processing assets for DVD creation

    =================== AV Details ===================
    file=C:\SVCD2DVD\assets\ahov.avi
    FormatName=avi
    Num_Frames=136451
    DurationInSecs=5458
    Duration=01:30:58.0
    VideoCodec=mpeg4
    Width=592
    Height=320
    Standard=PAL
    BitRate=1076
    AudioStreamCount=1
    Audio1SampleRate=48000
    Audio1Codec=mp3
    Audio1BitRate=160
    Audio2SampleRate=-1
    Audio2Codec=NULL
    Audio2BitRate=-1
    =================== AV Details ===================

    AVI2MPG: 6000kbs Full-D1
    16:01:40: Looking for AVI PAR...
    Pass 1/1: Processing ahov.avi
    16:01:41: ffmpeg version CVS, build 3276800, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard

    16:01:41: configuration: --enable-a52 --enable-gpl --enable-memalign-hack --disable-debug --enable-vhook

    16:01:41: built on Oct 8 2005 16:10:52, gcc: 3.2.3 (mingw special 20030504-1)

    16:01:41: Input #0, avi, from 'C:\SVCD2DVD\assets\ahov.avi':

    16:01:41: Duration: 01:30:58.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1076 kb/s

    16:01:41: Stream #0.0, 25.00 fps: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 592x320

    16:01:41: Stream #0.1: Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 160 kb/s

    16:01:41: Output #0, dvd, to 'C:\SVCD2DVD\assets\ahov_S2D.mpg':

    16:01:41: Stream #0.0, 25.00 fps: Video: mpeg2video (hq), yuv420p, 720x576, q=1-31, 6000 kb/s

    16:01:41: Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 224 kb/s

    16:01:41: Stream mapping:

    16:01:41: Stream #0.0 -> #0.0

    16:01:41: Stream #0.1 -> #0.1

    17:28:56: video:3759850kB audio:149237kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 1.908034%

    17:28:56: AVI2MPG: done.
    17:28:56: Done: Processing assets for DVD creation
    Authoring DVD Folders
    17:28:57: Creating TitleSet # 1
    17:28:57: SVCD2DVD: DVDfolders

    Generating DVD folders please wait....

    17:28:57: -->: DVDFolders creating VTS

    17:28:57: -->: VTS 01

    17:28:57:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\dummymenuPAL.mpg...

    17:28:57:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\SVCD2DVD\assets\ahov_S2D.mpg...

    17:33:12:

    17:33:12:

    17:35:45:

    17:35:49: Finalising DVD...
    17:35:51: Encoding menu...
    17:35:56: ffmpeg version CVS, build 3276800, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard

    17:35:56: configuration: --enable-a52 --enable-gpl --enable-memalign-hack --disable-debug --enable-vhook

    17:35:56: built on Oct 8 2005 16:10:52, gcc: 3.2.3 (mingw special 20030504-1)

    17:35:56: Input #0, image2, from 'C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\background%d.jpg':

    17:35:56: Duration: 00:00:00.0, start: 0.000000, bitrate: N/A

    17:35:56: Stream #0.0, 25.00 fps: Video: mjpeg, yuvj420p, 720x576

    17:35:56: Output #0, rawvideo, to 'C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv':

    17:35:56: Stream #0.0, 25.00 fps: Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576, q=2-31, 1000 kb/s

    17:35:56: Stream mapping:

    17:35:56: Stream #0.0 -> #0.0

    17:35:56: video:201kB audio:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead 0.000000%

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] File C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv looks like an MPEG Video stream.

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Found 0 audio streams and 1 video streams

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Multiplexing video program stream!

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\backgroundES.mpv)

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] VIDEO STREAM: e0

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Frame width : 720

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Frame height : 576

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 1:1 pixels

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Picture rate : 25.000 frames/sec

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Bit rate : variable

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 34816 bytes

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] CSPF : 0

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 0001248

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] target data-rate specified : 10080000

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Run-in Sectors = 88 Video delay = 12873 Audio delay = 0

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] New sequence commences...

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 0 frame=000000 sector=00000000

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 11.

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Multiplex completion at SCR=8484.

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 115032 frame=000011 sector=00000057

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Video Stream length: 205965 bytes

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Sequence headers: 2

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Sequence ends : 0

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] No. Pictures : 12

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] No. Groups : 2

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] No. I Frames : 2 avg. size 22181 bytes

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] No. P Frames : 11 avg. size 6424 bytes

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] No. B Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Average bit-rate : 3168400 bits/sec

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] Peak bit-rate : 1917200 bits/sec

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] BUFFERING min 124181 Buf max 134306

    17:35:57: INFO: [???] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.

    create sub file....done.
    running menu muxer....17:35:58: MUXRATE =4400

    17:35:58: after read_bmp(): xd=720 yd=576 x0=0 y0=0

    17:35:58: Found EOF in .sub file.

    17:35:58: warning, sub on line 0 starts before 4s, (some players won't show it)

    17:35:58: subtitle duration: -1

    17:35:58: ***************** HERE WE GO EVE.ODD *******************

    17:35:58: MenuType: EVEN

    17:35:58: subtitle_packet_size: 1700

    17:35:58: subtitle_packet_size & 1: 0

    17:35:58: subtitle_packet_size mod 2: 0

    17:35:58: MenuType==""

    17:35:58: MenuType=="EVEN"

    17:35:58: final subtitle_packet_size: 1700

    17:35:58: max_sub_size=1700

    17:35:58: skipped 0 bytes of garbage

    17:35:58: max_sub_size=1700

    17:35:58: 1 subtitles added, 0 subtitles skipped, stream: 32, offset: 0.18

    done.
    17:35:58: Encoding menu...Done.
    17:35:58: SVCD2DVD: DVDfolders

    Generating DVD folders please wait....

    17:35:58: -->: DVDFolders creating table of contents

    17:35:58: scanning C:\SVCD2DVD\dvd\SVCD2DVD_OUTPUT\VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO

    17:35:58: -->: Creating menu for TOC

    17:35:58:
    DVD Folders: Processing C:\Program Files\BadgerIT\SVCD2DVD v2\menu\menu.mpg...

    17:35:58:

    17:35:58:

    17:35:58: Finalising DVD...Done
    17:35:58: Done: Authoring DVD Folders
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    Hmm, odd, i think it could be something to do with my player settings.

    I've played the .VOB file through DivXplayer and it is exactly the same size as the original avi file. As a test i'm comparing the opening credit titles, and when i play it on my DVD some words are missing, but when run through DivXplayer they're there ok....

    I'm wondering whether i should have tinkered with my DVD player's setup...

    Does this sound familiar to anyone ?

    Thanks.

    Azza_b
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  3. Are you playing the burnt dvd in your stand alone player out to your TV? If so, what you are aeeing is normal on a TV and is called "overscan". A video window on your PC has no overscan area, so you get the whole picture.
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    Hi, yes i'm playing the burnt dvd out on a player to my tv.

    How can i stop this from occurring on my standalone player ? Can i mess around with the 4:3/16:9 settings ? As obviously this behaviour is not wanted as you're missing part of the movie...

    Or is there any setting i can change conversion-time to stop this happening/reduce overall screen size ?

    Thanks

    Azza_b
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  5. It's not happening on your standalone player, it's happening on your TV. All CRT based TV's overscan the picture so you don't see crap at the edges.

    The only way to "fix" this is to encode your video with a black border of 5 to 10 percent of the frame. That way the black border will be in the overscan area of the TV.

    This problem turns up nearly every day here. Search the forums for overscan and subtitles.
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    OK, will do, thanks for the searching tip.

    I'm wondering whether playing about with the screen-type of the tv may make a difference, i.e. play about with the zoom/smart/4:3/16:9 settings..

    Thanks.

    Azza_b
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    Hi again all, ok so i did some searching and understand the "overscan" issue with tv's... In the posts however, there were no mentions of actually how you would place some borders to correct this issue.

    Is this something you can achieve with s2d or will i have to use another program ? Has anyone got some simple instructions or a link to somewhere that shows how to do it as i'm a complete novice with all this!

    Would changing the "Apply Pan & Scan Info" setting in s2d have any affect whatsoever ?

    Many thanks,

    Azza_b
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    Azza_b: I will add an option to deal with overscan. Drop me an email & you can test the feature.
    SVCD2DVD v2.5, AVI/MPEG/HDTV/AviSynth/h264->DVD, PAL->NTSC conversion.
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    Wow, that's awesome!

    Multiple thanks...email sent...

    Azza_b
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    I've sent you another email Chris with my test results...

    Azza_b
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    Doing a search on here and elsewhere, i've been unable to find out if tv's apply overscan to the top and bottom of pictures ? Is it applied on all sides or just the left and right ?

    Azza_b
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  12. All four sides.
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    OK cool, Chrissboy has implemented a registry setting that can take into account this overscan problem.

    I've used an initial setting of 25 pixels and it seems to have worked nicely, any more and i was getting black bars appearing on the left and right.

    I guess it'll now be a case of me changing the setting depending on the height/width of the original source file and hopefully get some "standard" settings....

    Azza_b
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    no you should not have to. The size aspect ratio is calcuated as before, then the overscan setting is added.

    If 25 pixels works for you - it will be this value for all cases.
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    Oh bloody marvellous! That saves me from a headache then!

    Excellent, thanks for the special feature too Chris, really appreciate it.

    Azza_b

    P.S Was 25 pixels a lucky guess
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  16. Originally Posted by Azza_b
    P.S Was 25 pixels a lucky guess ;-)
    Wait til you get your next TV...
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    Well with the various zoom/wide/smart options available on most tv's i can't see it being that much of an issue, and if it is i'll just change the setting!

    Azza_b
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  18. Oops wrong thread...
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