Putting "tracks/chapters" in audio file ..

[Lucifers_Ghost]

Ok, I have an that I would like to be able to listen to it in the car. But, it's just one big file.

What program can I use to add "tracks / chapter points," so that I can fast forward to a particular part that I wish to listen to. I'm sure there is a program that can do this. I tried some searches but couldnt find anything.

Thanks in advance for any advice and/or suggestions.

LG

[guns1inger]

If this is for a CD, you need to split the tracks into seperate files, then burn. Sound Forge can do this automatically, and I'm sure some others can as well.

[Cornucopia]

If it's for CD, you DON'T need to split it into separate files.

Let's say you've already got a CD with 1 LOONNNGGG track.

Rip it to WAV (e.g. MyTrack.wav)

Make Cue Sheet (e.g. MyCD.cue)

Looks like this:

FILE “C:\MyTrack.wav” WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

All you do is add additional Track #'s and Index 01's (and the time you want it).
***Note, make the times exact multiples of 1/75 sec so you won't get any tick sounds from padding of the sectors/frames.

Now your Cue Sheet should look like this:

FILE “C:\MyTrack.wav” WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 05:50:65
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 09:47:50
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 15:12:53
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 25:02:40
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 27:34:05
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 31:58:53
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 35:08:65

Reburn, and you're done!

Scott

[jimmalenko]

I'd rather make separate tracks. Audacity or goldwave should be able to help.

[Sifaga]

I would fire up nero

add the large audio file

right click on it and go properties

goto Indexes, Limits, Split

add in where you want the audio split , then OK

nero will split the file

then change the pause between songs to zero

[mats.hogberg]

I would fire up nero then change the pause between songs to zero

Using that method, I always get a slight pause at the track joins, that I don'r get using the cue sheet method.

/Mats

[Sifaga]

Yes there is a slight pause,

I think i will be checking out this cue method,

Thanks Mats

[Cornucopia]

jimmalenko-

separate tracks may or may not have pauses/gaps, that would still have to be set in the authoring/burning app. doing the cue sheet thing bypasses needing to SaveAs different sub-files. All you have to do is whip out a text editor and calculator and 3 minutes later (or less if you do it alot) you're ready to burn. What you'll end up with will be X # of tracks that all butt up back-to-back with each other with no pauses, gaps or ticks between. Accessible by track# and smooth when played all at once. I'm surprised someone hasn't created an app that automates this. Hmm... maybe someone has, I'll have to go looking now, for kicks.

Scott

[jimmalenko]

separate tracks may or may not have pauses/gaps, that would still have to be set in the authoring/burning app. doing the cue sheet thing bypasses needing to SaveAs different sub-files. All you have to do is whip out a text editor and calculator and 3 minutes later (or less if you do it alot) you're ready to burn. What you'll end up with will be X # of tracks that all butt up back-to-back with each other with no pauses, gaps or ticks between. Accessible by track# and smooth when played all at once. I'm surprised someone hasn't created an app that automates this. Hmm... maybe someone has, I'll have to go looking now, for kicks.

Thanks for the explanation, Scott. However for what I use the files for (convert to MP3 and use an MP3 Player), I prefer to split to separate tracks. Much of a muchness I know, but I'm happy with the way I do it now

[thinger62]

cdwave. I've used it for years. It does nothing but split files. It is small and idiot proof. Freeware too....

[mats.hogberg]

To (re)create those live albums, I use shntool (http://www.etree.org/shnutils/ or http://shnutils.freeshell.org). It creates a cue sheet from a set of wavs (cue *.wav) that it then can join (join *.wav) and then you're ready to burn with your fav burning app. (cdrdao write joined.cue)
Nice & simple.

/Mats

[anubis13]

Try the Sonic Foundry CD Architect.
it will let you put track commands anywhere in the file. great for turning concert DVDs into albums for your car.
I'm not sure if sony picked it up but you could probably find a demo out there somewhere.

[hech54]

CDWave here too.
However some CD players cannot play home burned DAO(disc at once) Audio CD's.
TAO(Track at once) discs usually have a slight pause between songs but are more compatible....especially with auto CD players.
Just experiment a bit. If you are worried....copy the original .wav file so you can have a go at it again if you or your car's player don't like the results.
I can do either with Roxio....after splitting it with CDWave.

[judgmentday]

If it's for CD, you DON'T need to split it into separate files.

Let's say you've already got a CD with 1 LOONNNGGG track.

Rip it to WAV (e.g. MyTrack.wav)

Make Cue Sheet (e.g. MyCD.cue)

Looks like this: Code:
FILE “C:\MyTrack.wav” WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00


All you do is add additional Track #'s and Index 01's (and the time you want it).
***Note, make the times exact multiples of 1/75 sec so you won't get any tick sounds from padding of the sectors/frames.

Now your Cue Sheet should look like this: Code:
FILE “C:\MyTrack.wav” WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
INDEX 01 05:50:65
TRACK 03 AUDIO
INDEX 01 09:47:50
TRACK 04 AUDIO
INDEX 01 15:12:53
TRACK 05 AUDIO
INDEX 01 25:02:40
TRACK 06 AUDIO
INDEX 01 27:34:05
TRACK 07 AUDIO
INDEX 01 31:58:53
TRACK 08 AUDIO
INDEX 01 35:08:65


Reburn, and you're done!

Hi cornucopia,
How do you do this .cue file?
How do you know what is the next track's time?
Thank you.

[mats.hogberg]

How do you know what is the next track's time?
Thank you.

Play it in any player (WinAmp) that's got a timer - make a note of where you want a chapter point.

/Mats

[judgmentday]

Play it in any player (WinAmp) that's got a timer - make a note of where you want a chapter point.

Thank you. I have now the chatper points or times, but how do I actually create this .cue sheet? Thank you.

[Cornucopia]

Cue sheets are just text files (as witnessed by the example posted).
Open and edit with any text editor, or if you want a specialty editor that has parsing & validation for cue sheet standards built-in, get CDRCue.

Scott

[judgmentday]

Cue sheets are just text files (as witnessed by the example posted).
Open and edit with any text editor, or if you want a specialty editor that has parsing & validation for cue sheet standards built-in, get CDRCue.

I created the text file but when I wanted to import it within EAC, this program would not see it or recognize it. I'll try CDRCue. Thanks Scott.

[dphirschler]

You can also add CD text (which will be visible on compatible players) in the Cue Sheet.

PERFORMER "Bon Jovi"
TITLE "Nov.21.2004 - Atlantaic City, NJ"
FILE "C:\CD_work\disc2.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    TITLE "Wanted Dead or Alive"
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    TITLE "Only In My Dreams"
    INDEX 01 05:59:54
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    TITLE "I Get a Rush"
    INDEX 01 12:25:03
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    TITLE "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead"
    INDEX 01 15:29:26
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    TITLE "Bad Medicine"
    INDEX 01 20:30:49
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    TITLE "Shout"
    INDEX 01 27:32:39
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    TITLE "These Arms Are Open All Night"
    INDEX 01 40:32:45
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    TITLE "Garageland"
    INDEX 01 46:42:54
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    TITLE "Livin' on a Prayer"
    INDEX 01 50:51:35

EAC (Exact Audio Copy) can also burn CDs from the cue sheet.


Darryl

[judgmentday]

dphirschler,
How do you input this cue sheet to EAC so one can work out of this cue sheet? Thanks.

[Cornucopia]

Open EAC, click on "Write CD" button or ALT+W. Opens CD layout tool.
Load Cuesheet from within there.

Scott

[judgmentday]

Open EAC, click on "Write CD" button or ALT+W. Opens CD layout tool.
Load Cuesheet from within there.

The problem is that the text file is not reachable thru the load cuesheet window. It seems that it has to have a .cue extension for EAC to see it.

[judgmentday]

I figured out.
The text file has to be converted to a .cue file by changing its extension.
So, actually EAC does NOT accept text files.

[mats.hogberg]

A text file is a text file, no matter what its extension is. But you're correct - for this purpose, the text file has to have a .cue extension.

/Mats