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  1. I'm a Super Moderator johns0's Avatar
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    Supreme2k,i think the understanding is to prevent the parents from copying to give to grandparents and aunts and uncles.
    I think,therefore i am a hamster.

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    Yeah, but that's just as F'ed up, and pretty petty at that.
    Say you show the grandparents next year, or you're visiting them in Canada or wherever, how do you get another copy? It's not like a commercial DVD, wher you can purchase it anywhere. I think that they should be a little "generous" in those circumstances, and not be like the MPAA.

  3. Originally Posted by haloblack
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    if that were completely true then why do the movie companys still use analogue and digital protection on their disks
    Same reason they claimed in court that Spider-Man didn't make any money. They live in a different reality than we do.

    and how come many of my customers ask me how to remove these protections so as to copy the rental dvd's they have?
    Um... just what kind of business is it you're in?

    ( I'm not saying it isnt easy to crack protection but i think that your AVERAGE pc/internet home user would be a little daunted with the ins and outs of ripping)
    Any average PC user who wants to copy a dvd will go to Google, type in "how do I copy a dvd?" and be here within ten seconds. Then they'll register, ignore all the guides, and their first post will be "HOW DO I COPY A DVD I HAVE READ AND CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT?!" Thirty or forty abusive posts by the regs later, and they'll finally read a guide and be cranking out "backups" by the truckload. I may have a slightly different definition of "average" than you do, but the end result is the same. If the disc can be read, it can be copied - period. If I were you I'd include a title screen that said "If you're watching this play, then your child must be in it. If you didn't pay for this disc, then you're ripping off your own child's school. Underfunded schools produce undereducated students, so remember that when your daughter starts earning her money working for Vivid Video!"

    But that's just me...

    that was funny


    actually, the best way to copy protect a dvd is to take a black sharpie and trace around the outer edge of the disc on the bottom.

  4. Sharpies are for sniffing.

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    I've been quiet for years...VCDs can be protected by using hex editors...it makes CDs unreadable on your cd/dvd drive...now with DVD I've been searching for the hex that makes it unreadable on your drive...this is kinda difficult you need RWs and a player that can read RWs...so if you want to protect your dvd start learning hex/asm codes. btw Fire Burner should support DVD coz this software can work together with my method. I left this project on idle now can someone help me?

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    I hate to resurrect this thread, but hey Kamui...

    If you can make a disc that works in EVERY Set-top box, but DOESN'T work in any of my CD/DVD-ROM drives, I'll give you a whole fuckload of money.

    You're high on "the junk".

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  7. put warning on menu that says, "if u attempt to copy this DVD an automatic virus will be unleashed on your pc destroying your porn collection in under 20 secs" that should stop most males with a pc attempting it.

  8. hehe was that a conversation stopper?
    this thread was going so good too

  9. Gurm, there are VCD copy-protections used in Asia that will cause them to not work in PC but still play in all standalone VCD players. Countries like Philippines and India are huge markets for VCD and (especially in Philippines) its very rare to find originals, so they have to try something to reduce piracy, and i know many VCD pirates had problems with this copy protection. I dont know enough about it, just know it exists, and that its probably not too hard to work around it.
    Btw, i experienced some rather unbelieveable behavior by people in Philippines who does pirated VCDs; they actually ADD copy protection on pirated stuff so others will not pirate what they already pirated. Not exactly humble behavior. I would compare it to registering and insuring a stolen car.

  10. thor300 is correct. I had 4 of these Video CD's. The iso9660 track
    was absent - only the raw mpeg remained.

  11. Okay, let me start this out with a nice DISCLAIMER:

    I HAVE NOT TRIED THIS YET! I WILL BE TRYING IT SOON! With that said, some DVD Ripping programs on the Macintosh such as MTR and DVDBackup (I haven't check my favorite PC Counterparts such as ISOBuster and DVD Decrypter) claim to allow you to "change" the RCP settings and in some cases, ADD RCE! While RCE is a poor protecion meathod and I can't see why anyone would want it, the "solution" I suggest is simple:

    1. Burn your All-Region/R0 DVD-R as your "Master/Carbon Copy Master" DVD, you'll need this to continue.

    2. Insert the DVD You've just created, launch a ripping program that lets you change RCP and/or RCE.

    3. Select your regions and hit the GO/OK/RIP button.

    4. Burn your new REGION-??? Disc; repeat as needed.

    NOTE: This won't make your DVD "Copy Proof" but it will CERTAINLY make it "Copy EVIDENT" should someone attempt to steal your work.

    I was talking to some members of an Anime fansub group that was considering using the "old meathod" of Fansub distribution -- Money for the blank media (Formerly VHS, now a $1.00 Dollar DVD) and postage to ship the DVD. The wouldn't charge for the footage as per fansubbing ethics and wouldn't sub released shows (I'm pretty sure that Fansubs don't fall under warez but if they do delete this) etc,etc.

    They were worried however, that some people who they traded with would sell their subs -- ILLEGALLY (Since a profit is generated) on eBay or other online sites. Their "solution" was to make the DVD "Copy Evident" rather than "Copy Proof" which is, in essence, what the MPAA does, I can copy almost any DVD, but it's obvious that it's a back-up... especially on a DVD-R branded MAXELL.

    So in short you can't copy protect it, but you can make it noticable as people have already stated.

  12. I didnt get any of that. Care to explain abit more?
    Dont know why anyone would need this but still interesting..

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    there's an easy way to copy protect a dvd, all you do is make a fake cover saying it's a ben affleck and jennifer lopez movie.
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    Originally Posted by ricky1756
    there's an easy way to copy protect a dvd, all you do is make a fake cover saying it's a ben affleck and jennifer lopez movie.

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    The old adage rings true - if it can be played, it can be copied.
    If in doubt, Google it.

  16. Originally Posted by jimmalenko
    The old adage rings true - if it can be played, it can be copied.
    This Quote always comes up. Point is, it can be "Protected" but CAN be copied Nothing is 100%.

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    Don't you just love posts like these? Stop, look and then cross the street! Oh and don't forget to look both ways also.

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    Originally Posted by jdizzy40
    Don't you just love posts like these? Stop, look and then cross the street! Oh and don't forget to look both ways also.
    sorry ?

    I don't quite understand what you mean
    If in doubt, Google it.

  19. If you have about 2 grand to spend you can try Sonic DVD Producer.

    http://www.sonic.com/products/dvdproducer/default.asp
    It doesn't matter who you vote for. The government always gets in.

  20. buzzmadman
    Although I've never tried it, it was suggested in another post to add a blank track to the end of the DVD. Then scratch the disk (I'd drill a small hole) in the bogus track area. This will prevent copying for probably 90% of the users out there. Yes, it can be beaten, but most people don't have the knowledge found on this website. They rely on diskcopy found in most softwares. You will never prevent copying, but you will atleast slow it down.....

    just my meager opinion

  21. Originally Posted by Laddydaddy
    If you have about 2 grand to spend you can try Sonic DVD Producer.

    http://www.sonic.com/products/dvdproducer/default.asp
    It doesnt' matter hwo much you spend on authoring software, if its burnt, it cannot have CSS applied. (Burners cannot write to the disk area that contains the CSS keys).

    Even if you have your disks pressed and pay the CSS fees, we all know they can still be copied pretty damn easily.

    If Hollywood and their millions can't stop DVD copying, neither can you.

  22. Here's a possible method for small-scale distribution. Some ideas taken from the most difficult to rip disk I ever encountered. It had a large number of small, dull clips, many of which were very similar, split into 2 or 3 major segments with an intentionally random play order.

    Split the video into multiple VOBS - 50 or more. Make some of them duplicates, include some of scrambled video. Randomize the order. Make first several clips all scrambled.

    Make primary menu with 4 - 6 copies. Each copy has several hidden buttons, one of which points to next menu. Invisible button 4 points to menu 2, where invisible button 7 points to menu 3, and so forth. Last menu plays playlist with correct VOB play order, 33 - 17 - 11- 51, etc. All previous menu's Play button leads to first scrambled clips and either loops or plays in numeric order, which is out of sequence. You would have to press the code number sequence to initiate correct playback. I think you could also begin each VOB segment with a short, identical intro and use the menu-driven playlist to point to the chapter where the actual clip begins, but not sure of this.

    Make several different Masters, 10 or so. Include code number on splash screen at beginning, end, one or two intermissions. Could get fancy and imbed a few single frames as subliminals within actual video. Make a show of having each purchaser sign an individual page with their code number on it. Page would state substantial penalties for copying, funds to benefit worthy organization, etc. Would also point out that copies could be traced to original purchaser. Make a series of these pages with the various code numbers preceded by a meaningless prefix, such as ten pages "A1" with the 10 Master code numbers, "A2", etc. This would give the impression that each buyer has an actual, individually traceable edition, even though there are actually only 10 seperate editions - just enough to give the appearance of unique serial numbers.

    Not perfect, but would keep most honest people honest without much expense.

  23. Wow. It's just a school play (and the original poster is long gone)
    -Yar, matey!-

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    Don't hijack a topic that is 6+ months old and is many pages long.
    Start a new one..



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