Set-recorder owners and MovieFactory 3

[PhilipL]

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[kabanero]

While DVD-RW supports DVD-VR and the +VR format, +RW doesn’t support the DVD-VR format in MovieFactory 3, but then hard to consider how useful this would have been anyway.

Ha ha ,

PhilipL

You still hate DVD+R/RW format. Too bad for you.

Can you take your recorded DVD-RAM or DVD-RW disk in DVD-VR format out of your DVD-RAM or DVD-RW set-top recorder and play it right away on any other stand alone DVD player.?

NO, YOU CAN'T.

I can take recorded DVD+RW disk in DVD+VR format out of my LiteOn recorder and play it right away on any other stand alone DVD plyaer.

YES, I CAN.

[PhilipL]

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[kabanero]

Hi

This is two threads you have trolled me in. I am sorry that you find my views do not agree with yours.

I have spent time writing some information to help others, so what is your contribution exactly?

Trolling is not allowed in these forums.

Regards

Philip

Philip,

cut your bull shit.

YOU are internet troll for Pioneer and DVD forum on this forum and DVDplusRW. org. YOU shoud be prohibited to post on this forum for false information.

[The village idiot]

Can you take your recorded DVD-RAM or DVD-RW disk in DVD-VR format out of your DVD-RAM or DVD-RW set-top recorder and play it right away on any other stand alone DVD player.?

NO, YOU CAN'T.

Well, actually, if you opened up your thinking to the possibility of any thing else, you would find that there are players that will play DVD-RAM recorded in a standalone. And they will play them without any kind of modification.

Maybe it's time to stop the needless +- format war before this thread is locked (which is most likely your idea). Give Phillip a break, he is not doing anything but reporting the new features of DMF3, which is something many of us appreciate! It ws a completely un-biased report, until you stepped in and turned it into a war. If you feel that these remarks constitute a peronal attack, then report it to the mods and let them decide.

[kabanero]

Hi idiot,

you would find that there are players that will play DVD-RAM recorded in a standalone. And they will play them without any kind of modification

Of course, Panasonic DVD players will play DVD-RAM disks without any kind of modification. Why? Because they are Panasonic dvd players and Panasonic promoting that DVD-RAM format.

But what about other hundreds of brands and models?

Also, I saw Philip posts on this forum and DVDplusRW.org forum for the last two years. In his every post he was hating and posting false information about DVD+RW format and promoting Pioneer, DVD forum and DVD-RW/W format.

I would be gald if Philip could get a break and get a life, and stop posting misleading information for other people.

[donpedro]

PhilipL, good work. Thank you.

[The village idiot]

Hi idiot,

you would find that there are players that will play DVD-RAM recorded in a standalone. And they will play them without any kind of modification

Of course, Panasonic DVD players will play DVD-RAM disks without any kind of modification. Why? Because they are Panasonic dvd players and Panasonic promoting that DVD-RAM format.

But what about other hundreds of brands and models?

Also, I saw Philip posts on this forum and DVDplusRW.org forum for the last two years. In his every post he was hating and posting false information about DVD+RW format and promoting Pioneer, DVD forum and DVD-RW/W format.

I would be gald if Philip could get a break and get a life, and stop posting misleading information for other people.

Then make sure to quote those sections so that we can see if they have been changed. I see that his post has been edited once or twice, and now I don't know if I should have said what I did. I could be completely wrong now. Or simply lets the mods deal with it, just bring it to their attention. The current version of his DMF3 review seems to be pretty un-biased, I just wish they had put this into DMF2 so that I wouldn't need to upgrade again. But I guess that is the way of progress.

[PhilipL]

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[accountwiz]

In the spirit of moving past the troll/flame crap, I used the trial version of this for one day before buying the full version. I'm tired of using multiple programs to get episodes captured from TV shows onto DVD-R AND MF3 is really pretty special in that regard for me. If you have a Panasonic DMR-E80, you may have tried to take your DVD-RAM disc to your pc to bring shows into an editing and/or authoring program for processing toward final product. It can be expensive to buy each program and time consuming too, but the gobs of time it was taking was driving me crazy.

I was using a trial of TMPG DVD Author, which was nice but, if you wanted to re-encode your files it was a bust. It also required you to import episodes one at a time (unless I was missing something) and didn't import the file titles to the menu. The menu selections were pretty sparse as well, but it was pretty solid and reliable.

I like DVD Lab, but the time to draw up my menus was more than I wanted to tackle. It was less stable than DVD Author, too. It would just decide not to compile my VOBs after a good 30-45 minutes laying everything out. It has the seeds of a killer app in it, but it felt like I was a beta tester.

Essentially, I wanted a comprehensive program that was DVD-RAM and AC3 friendly, with an ability to re-encode larger projects at acceptable quality onto DVD-R. MF3 can do it, and the encoder is a very nice surprise from a visual standpoint. It takes me roughly 90 minutes to re-encode a 60-minute Panny file recorded at SP quality into a VBR 1800 episode that looks great. I don't expect crystal clarity when I'm trying to squeeze nearly 5 hours onto a disc, but what I get looks great for an archive copy. And, if I don't want it re-encoded at all, there's a simple check box to avoid re-encoding compliant files. Processing is quite fast when you avoid the re-encoding, obviously.

It has a huge set of menu options and they are fast and reliable in operation, just like DVD Author's. The files are imported into a directory on my HDD from the DVD-RAM, so I have them to work with if I want to redo my projects for any reason. Editing is easy and complete. I can snip begins, ends and commercial breaks in no time.

I guess I'm just happy to find a solution that combines quality and time savings. I think it gives you alot for $100, but you might want to trial it to see if it makes your life easier. I am a huge fan of my Panny E80, and MF3 will help me get the most out of it without spending hours fussing over menus and bitrates.

If I could request 1 feature, it would be a fit-to-one disc button that accurately estimates the necessary bit-rate and makes the proper adjustments before burning. That would be a dream to me.

[bobinga]

Thanks for the review

[The village idiot]

Damn ... It sounds like I am going to have to shell out some money for the upgrade. When you take multiple mpegs and put them into one project, does it still make them into seperate titles, or will it combine them into one seamless mpeg?

Anybody found any problems yet?

[accountwiz]

Just one tileset, I'm afraid.

[Roll Tide]

Guys,
Does MF3 allow you to customize the menu layouts any more than MF2 ? (i.e. can you move titles and/or buttons around on the screen?) This has always been my biggest disappointment with MF2.

Also, have any of you authored any discs using long (2+ hour long) mpg files? I do a lot of college football game conversions, and I have found that Ulead products typically cause out of sync conditions on longer mpgs.

PhilipL, thanks for the information on this new product. It's a shame you had to be attacked like that. Those who don't have DVD-RAM don't know what an underappreciated treasure it is. Just because it's the least popular, doesn't mean it's crap.

Any info you guys could provide would be appreciated.

[accountwiz]

Roll Tide,

I've done a 4-5hr encode with no issues of audio sync.

Menu buttons and frames are set in place but there is a HUGE number of layouts to choose from for everything from 1 to 12 titles, so it's nowhere near as cramped feeling as MF2 was.

As a DVD-RAM user, I am rapidly becoming hooked on this software. If it ain't perfect, it's pretty doggone nice.

Joe

[PhilipL]

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[Roll Tide]

Thanks for the response. I guess I'll have to try out the demo version.

[accountwiz]

FWIW, the demo didn't seem to have the ac3 support built in... no idea why, but it works perfectly in the full version.

The trial also has a small percentage of the full version's backgrounds, layouts, frames and button sets.

[ejai]

Thanks PhilipL,
Nice job, this is a great informative thread.

I own DVD Workshop and will wait until the new version arrives because I need more flexibility and Moviefactory restricts my creativity. I must admit MF3 does have very good features.

[PhilipL]

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