i think i used all the tools, but no success
i tried using streamboxVCR, hi-net recorder asf recoder, and used url snooper(the newest for XP) (and the snooper didn't find anything but this mms url)
either these proggies aren't good, or the url is nothing but a hidden url, and the server i connect is just a redirecting server, for example one of the streaming is actually an online tv-

mms://live.kick.co.il/video2

and the homepage is www.kik.co.il if anyone can suggest how capturing, or even if you find out the real adress it redirects to, will be helpful

BYE
-ship