The future of dvd writers?

[mojo2185]

I'm seriously considering getting a DVD writer, not sure which one yet, but i'll decide that later.
Here is my main question:
Will dual layer DVDs be made available to consumers for use; they store twice as much as the DVDs out now. If they do (and to my knowledge, they are NOT available now, but i could be wrong) will a they need a specific type of DVD writer need to be used, one that can write on dual layers? Would I have to purchase a brand new DVD writer that can do this? The point is, i don't want my soon to be purchased DVD writer to become obsolete in a few years and have to purchase another. I've searched around a bit on the forum, and didn't find an answer to my question, but I'm guessing this question has been asked before (so please don't yell at me, instead could you link me to that topic?).

Thanks for any help!

-mojo

[Bob W]

I think dual layer DVD's are actually two layers that are glued together so I don't believe we will ever see them for use in any DVD burner.

[Tommyknocker]

I really do not think they will be that economical. I personally believe when a family makes a video, it will be less than two hours long, so common DVD-R(W)s will be more than enough to handle them. Case in point, how many camcorders today can record more than two hours without reloading?

[mojo2185]

Good point with the camcorders. However, the dual layer dvds would be to backup my personal DVD collection (backups of legally purchased DVDs) without the need of rips or cutting out special features, etc.

Thanks for the replies so far!

-mojo

[nick1977]

The ability to copy straight a Dual Layered DVD is likely to be a reason for the technology NOT being developed!
And also, there is no such thing as a legal copy of a DVD. A copy is a copy, whether for personal use or not. I, as everybody, have my own idea of what is acceptable and what is not, but at the end of the day, I'm afraid a copy of any copyrighted DVD is illegal.

Nick

[FOO]

There is a difference between acceptable in your opinion
and legal. It is not true that any copy of a copyrighted DVD
is illegal.

[skittelsen]

According to the copyright laws, you can make a backup copy of your video tapes, CD's, software CD-ROMS, and DVD's for personal use. Any resale or distribution is illegal.

[Gil T Pleasure]

Ah, but breaking the CSS encyption on commercial DVDs is illegal (at least in the US).

[LanEvo7]

You would have to prove that CSS was broken though. Who says I didn't capture it from a player?

[jnk76]

Dual layer will not be developed IMO for 2 reasons.

1) It makes it easier to back-up DVD's
2) Blue-Ray will be coming in a couple years and they will be pushing very hard for that format. Too bad they don't know the consumer is very happy with DVD quality.

[thxkid]

pardon me but most of the consumers don't care about qaulity or VHS would have been dead 5 years ago when it should have been, SVHS was far superior than crapVHS and it never took off, if DVD was for qaulity than the would not put the sub qaulity 6 hr mode on all the DVD recorders hitting the market now, 6 hr mode is no better than a VHS tape. DVD took 5 years to become a main stream idea, mostly because its hip, easy and small in size, if you can put VHS quality on it the consumer would buy it, by the way look at how many consumers bitch about letterboxing on DVD's(what idiots). Even blockbuster will not carry most movies in letterbox form if they are in iether full screen or letterbox.
The funny thing about dual layers is that its used to add the extra's know put on most DVD's, a dual layer is only used about 20% of the time because the movie itself is larger than 4.4 gigs.

[jnk76]

thxkid,

I believe most consumers do care about quality but do not like change. DVD was one of the fastest growing new items ever. In only 5 years it has wiped out at least half of the VHS owners and most video stores have about the same in stock to rent....about 1/2. That is a remarkable feat since they most North American homes avg. 2 VCR's.
I think the biggest reasons why people changed over was the huge improvements in video quality on there existing tv. The small size of disc compared to VHS and marketing probably had a bit to do with it.

Most new DVD's coming out now are fully utilized the entire DVD....making a full copy one DVD most difficult in high quality...thank-u CCE.

J

[mojo2185]

So.... I don't have to worry about dual layer dvd writers, because they ain't gonna happen?
(A simple yes or no will do )

I DO NOT plan on selling copyrighted material, so don't accuse me of planning to do it! I have two dogs (very hyperactive i might add) that destroy things at random. They've already destroyed a DVD or two, and punctured a hole in a PS2 game, so i just want to protect my investments that I've shelled out 15+ dollars for.

Thanks!

-mojo

[jnk76]

In my opinion.......there will never be a consumer availbable dual layer dvd writer.

[JamesB69]

You would have to prove that CSS was broken though. Who says I didn't capture it from a player?

I "think" the DMCA says somethign about circumventing the copy-protection? Would this not be circumvention.

And to the original poster, I say no there will be no dual ray burners. I think it is technically impossible to burn dual layered discs. Even if it was possible the MPAA would have a fit. It would enable people to get DVD Decrypter, walk into blockbuster, and have any DVD for the cost of a blank.

[Gil T Pleasure]

I say no there will be no dual ray burners. I think it is technically impossible to burn dual layered discs.

Actually, the manufacturers can make dual layer DVD discs if they wanted to, but it wouldn't be compatible with the existing DVD players/DVD-ROMs.

[holistic]

offtopic - slightly

.. i just want to protect my investments that I've shelled out 15+ dollars for....

Pardon me, but I am in a sarcastic mood right now.

Lets spend (computer/DVD burner + CCE + NERO ...etc) $4000 + to back up $100 worth of DVD ...... ... amused !

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