Hey again guys,
I'm converting Hi8 tapes to DVD, using DV interlaced video as the source capture. I then burn the DVD interlaced, and play it back on two players. First player, panasonic bluray player BDT-310 connected to plasma display. It looks pretty BAD, wavy lines appear during panning and lots of artifacts. I looked at the settings but there's nothing to tweak. Is this an example of a interlacing-unaware player?
I played it back on my playstation 3 connected to a projector and it looked better , however i saw those black comb lines, pretty apparent actually.
I also hooked up bluray player to a 4:3 tube tv, and no difference. Do I actually need to buy a dvd player that "knows" how to handle interlaced material? How would I know if it does. Or is the best solution to burn the dvd de-interlaced and suck up the quality loss in exchange for smoother video?
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All DVD and Blu-ray players and TVs support interlaced video. You did something wrong with the editing or encoding. Maybe the wrong field order or improper resizing.
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I kept everything at 720x480 and I'm using convertXtoDVD to make the dvd. I did not enable de-interlacing. I dunno.
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This has little to do with deinterlacing (you do not need to). I bet all your DVD players and TVs are behaving as expected, too. What jagabo meant was, somewhere between capture, editing, and burning to DVD, your field order got switched. It may be a bug, a setting, a default, that has to be changed, etc. What was top field became bottom, and vv. This is likely why you see combs. Without more excruciatingly explicit details about how you got from Hi8 to DVD, hard to say anything more.
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Or maybe you encoded as progressive. Did I read that ConvertXToDVD always encodes as progressive? Got a sample?
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Hi8 is top field first, DV is (normally) bottom field first. As turk690 and others have said, field order has probably been mishandled in the conversions.
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Hi8 is neither top field first nor bottom field first. It's just an alternating sequence of top and bottom fields. When a DV device captures analog video it starts with a bottom field then adds the next field, a top field, to fill out the frame. That creates bottom field first frames. If you don't do anything that disturbs the field structure and encode as interlaced BFF for DVD they will play back properly on TV.
Wavy vertical edges may indicate the frame was resized vertically without interlaced handling. For example, the software may have cropped 10 lines of head switching noise off the bottom of the frame and resized what was left to the original frame size. The size of the waves will vary depending on the amount of that was cropped:
Download Mpg2Cut2 and extract a few seconds from one of your VOB files (Mark-in, Mark-out, File -> Save This Clip). Upload it here.Last edited by jagabo; 31st Jul 2014 at 07:57.
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according to media info, the source video captured is:
Code:General Complete name : D:\Hi8 Project\MKD2002-Tape_1.avi Format : AVI Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave Commercial name : DVCPRO Format profile : OpenDML File size : 26.5 GiB Duration : 2h 5mn Overall bit rate mode : Constant Overall bit rate : 30.3 Mbps Video ID : 0 Format : DV Commercial name : DVCPRO Codec ID : dvsd Codec ID/Hint : Sony Duration : 2h 5mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps Width : 720 pixels Height : 480 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 fps Standard : NTSC Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Interlaced Scan order : Bottom Field First Compression mode : Lossy Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357 Time code of first frame : 00:00:00;00 Time code source : Subcode time code Stream size : 25.1 GiB (95%) Audio ID : 1 Format : PCM Format settings, Endianness : Little Format settings, Sign : Signed Codec ID : 1 Duration : 2h 5mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 411.2 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Stream size : 1.23 GiB (5%) Alignment : Aligned on interleaves Interleave, duration : 33 ms (1.00 video frame) Interleave, preload duration : 33 ms
Code:General Complete name : G:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB Format : MPEG-PS File size : 1 024 MiB Duration : 28mn 48s Overall bit rate : 4 969 Kbps Video ID : 224 (0xE0) Format : MPEG Video Format version : Version 2 Format profile : Main@Main Format settings, BVOP : No Format settings, Matrix : Default Format settings, GOP : N=14 Duration : 28mn 48s Bit rate : 4 669 Kbps Width : 720 pixels Height : 480 pixels Display aspect ratio : 4:3 Frame rate : 29.970 fps Standard : NTSC Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Compression mode : Lossy Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.451 Time code of first frame : 00:00:00:00 Time code source : Group of pictures header Stream size : 964 MiB (94%) Audio ID : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80) Format : AC-3 Format/Info : Audio Coding 3 Mode extension : CM (complete main) Format settings, Endianness : Big Muxing mode : DVD-Video Duration : 28mn 48s Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 192 Kbps Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Bit depth : 16 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 39.6 MiB (4%) Menu
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You encoded it as progressive. You may not be able to encode as interlaced in ConvertXToDVD, but you can set DVDFlick to encode interlaced. Instead of choosing NTSC-Film, choose NTSC. Or use the better AVSToDVD.
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avstodvd looks like it's doing it right. The resultant VOBs are interlaced.. however when I play it on my blue ray player on a plasma display, it looks like it's de-interlacing it and it's almost 'movie like' on motion now. I'm guessing the player is doing it. I'll do some more testing when I get the time. Thanks!