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    I need to film myself in a classroom activity on Tuesday. My school rents cameras, but for two days, it would cost $120 and it would cost $180 for a week. May as well buy one if I am spending that much.

    I have an older Mac Pro Quad Core and I am running 10.6.7 and Final Cut Studio 2 (I bought FCS3 not too long ago, but have not installed it yet).

    I'd like to go HD (I think) and spend less than $500.

    What I want to do is be able to film stuff, dump it into Final Cut Pro and make standard definition DVDs. I know how to capture video using a Canopus ADVC-100 and make DVDs from the resulting DV files, but from what I am seeing, cameras record in MTS and I'd need to do a log and transfer? Would I transfer to ProRes and make my DVD as usual out of that file? I have never actually captured video directly from a video camera, just VHS through the Canopus.

    I'd shoot mostly home movies and the occasional live band. Would a camera like either of these be good for my needs?

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    Unless you actually want to buy a camera, first check with your local public access channel and university/colleges to see if their AV departments can help you film your class.
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    Originally Posted by zoobie View Post
    Unless you actually want to buy a camera, first check with your local public access channel and university/colleges to see if their AV departments can help you film your class.
    I did and I was able to get one loaned to me for free. I just have to buy mini-DV tapes.

    I have no idea what that other link I found on the college's website was, but that one said it was $180 a week to rent one, which I didn't want to do for obvious reasons.

    That said, I WOULD like to buy one at some point, so my questions above still apply
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    I like the Samsungs (about $200-300) as they record in AVCHD and can readily be converted to ProRes or Apple Intermediate Codec; the latter works fine in FCP. ProRes is a bit larger but is compatible with more NLEs.
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    What is your top budget?

    If you can stretch to ~$800, the Panasonic TM900 is the sweet spot for low light and 60p plus pro audio features.
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    What is your top budget?

    If you can stretch to ~$800, the Panasonic TM900 is the sweet spot for low light and 60p plus pro audio features.
    That may be doable. Probably wouldn't want to go more than that. Was hoping to go a little less, though I know I will sacrifice quality if I do obviously

    As for the codec stuff, is Apple Intermediate or ProRes better or are they about the same? I'd assume I'd convert to that and edit as usual in FCP, then export to compressor to make my .m2v files for DVDSP?
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    What is your top budget?

    If you can stretch to ~$800, the Panasonic TM900 is the sweet spot for low light and 60p plus pro audio features.

    do you know if it's real 60p or 30p with doubled frames like so many others?
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    Originally Posted by aedipuss View Post
    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    What is your top budget?

    If you can stretch to ~$800, the Panasonic TM900 is the sweet spot for low light and 60p plus pro audio features.

    do you know if it's real 60p or 30p with doubled frames like so many others?
    Full 60p @ 28 Mbps but was released pre AVCHD v2.0. The codec is proprietary.
    http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Panasonic-HDC-TM900-Camcorder-Review/Compression-and-Media.htm
    http://www.panasonic-video-converter.com/category/panasonic-video-converter/convert-pa...0-avchd-files/
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    Originally Posted by edDV View Post
    do you know if it's real 60p or 30p with doubled frames like so many others?
    no, it's not a Lumix , it really shoots at 60p

    just avoid to shoot with setting pcm audio (for post-process compatibility), always prefer the ac3 audio

    PS: it's a nice camcorder

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    get a Sony HDR cx1100 refurbished straight from Sony 330$ sonystyle.com
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