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  1. Today i try to encode 1920x1080i 25fps with bd rebuilder
    Use all default setting ,use deinterlacer
    Set Output filesize 4GB

    Real output 64x24i filesize 400MB
    Why? Bug v0.47.07?
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    BR-Rebuilder does have bugs. If you want to report it, you can go to Doom9, but I must warn you - while the guy who wrote BD-Rebuilder is a good guy, the forum there is filled with people who like to attack others so it is very possible that if you go there to report a bug that everybody will tell you that you had problems because you don't know what you are doing and BD-Rebuilder is perfect in every way.

    What does "64x24i" mean? You made a mistake there. I can tell you that if your source uses VC-1 interlaced video, BD-Rebuilder has many problems with this. I can also tell you that if you deselect audio and subtitle files so that some of the original ones don't get copied to your copy, BD-Rebuilder can have problems with that but usually I have seen this result in files that are much too big rather than being very small. You can try re-encoding without removing any subtitle or audio files and see if that gets you the size you want.

    Finally, are you sure that BD-Rebuilder completed without errors? If it gets an error it will stop processing. Are you sure the output file is complete?
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    If you are not already a member at the Doom9 forum, you'll have to wait a few days after signing up before you can post. When you post in the bug report thread, found here, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716 make sure to include your log file, and they will want you to run the Inspect utility found in the Help section of BD Rebuilder.
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    Originally Posted by Kerry56 View Post
    If you are not already a member at the Doom9 forum, you'll have to wait a few days after signing up before you can post. When you post in the bug report thread, found here, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716 make sure to include your log file, and they will want you to run the Inspect utility found in the Help section of BD Rebuilder.
    And if they find the smallest of mistakes in your setup they will berate you and call you an idiot. Again if you want to go to Doom9 you MIGHT get help, but you might also get nothing but criticism from others who can't be bothered to help you.

    For the record, I used to be a member at Doom9, but I wasn't not very active and I never was criticized, but I saw a lot of smug criticism directed at people who sincerely wanted help with BD-Rebuilder. I just got tired of the general attitudes at Doom9 and I won't go back. Also, Doom9 goes down for weeks at a time because the guy who runs it often can't be bothered to fix problems with it.
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  5. Originally Posted by jman98 View Post
    BR-Rebuilder does have bugs. If you want to report it, you can go to Doom9, but I must warn you - while the guy who wrote BD-Rebuilder is a good guy, the forum there is filled with people who like to attack others so it is very possible that if you go there to report a bug that everybody will tell you that you had problems because you don't know what you are doing and BD-Rebuilder is perfect in every way.

    What does "64x24i" mean? You made a mistake there. I can tell you that if your source uses VC-1 interlaced video, BD-Rebuilder has many problems with this. I can also tell you that if you deselect audio and subtitle files so that some of the original ones don't get copied to your copy, BD-Rebuilder can have problems with that but usually I have seen this result in files that are much too big rather than being very small. You can try re-encoding without removing any subtitle or audio files and see if that gets you the size you want.

    Finally, are you sure that BD-Rebuilder completed without errors? If it gets an error it will stop processing. Are you sure the output file is complete?
    64x24i is output resolution
    all process encoding is complete ,no warning or any errors.



    Originally Posted by Kerry56 View Post
    If you are not already a member at the Doom9 forum, you'll have to wait a few days after signing up before you can post. When you post in the bug report thread, found here, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716 make sure to include your log file, and they will want you to run the Inspect utility found in the Help section of BD Rebuilder.

    I just regist doom9 forum ,and waiting 5 days for post new thread




    I upload example clip both input and output files
    input http://fileling.com/1iLz/testt.m2ts
    out put http://fileling.com/1iLA/00000.m2ts
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    Originally Posted by ningnong132 View Post

    64x24i is output resolution
    No it's not. That's not a resolution. 24i is possible, although that would be unusual and it's not valid for BluRay. 64 means nothing. Maybe you mean something like 640x480 but 64x24i isn't correct.



    Originally Posted by ningnong132 View Post
    I just regist doom9 forum ,and waiting 5 days for post new thread
    Sometimes the people at Doom9 just don't care about your problem. I guess that happened to you.
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    I believe the 5 day waiting period is standard for all new members. It is a fair bit of insight into their attitudes there however, and jman98 is correct in that they are not particularly welcoming to newcomers, or those with little technical knowledge.

    The subforum for BD Rebuilder is an exception to that to some degree, though you really need to provide log files when asking for help in there.

    Here is the MediaInfo file from his output m2ts if anyone is interested:

    Code:
    General
    ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
    Complete name                            : F:\Downloads\00000.m2ts
    Format                                   : BDAV
    Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
    File size                                : 690 KiB
    Duration                                 : 5s 760ms
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 974 Kbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
    Codec ID                                 : 27
    Duration                                 : 5s 840ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 349 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 15.0 Mbps
    Width                                    : 64 pixels
    Height                                   : 24 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 2.667
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 9.088
    Stream size                              : 249 KiB (36%)
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Codec ID                                 : 129
    Duration                                 : 5s 696ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 267 KiB (39%)
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Format profile                           : Dolby Digital
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Codec ID                                 : 129
    Duration                                 : 5s 664ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : 30ms
    Stream size                              : 133 KiB (19%)
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    I have no idea how he got the resolution so screwed up in that output. Here is the MediaInfo file for his input:

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    General
    ID                                       : 1 (0x1)
    Complete name                            : F:\Downloads\testt.m2ts
    Format                                   : BDAV
    Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
    File size                                : 7.08 MiB
    Duration                                 : 5s 670ms
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 10.4 Mbps
    Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 35.5 Mbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AVC
    Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile                           : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=8, N=24
    Codec ID                                 : 27
    Duration                                 : 5s 840ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 9 429 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 40.0 Mbps
    Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
    Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Standard                                 : Component
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : MBAFF
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.182
    Stream size                              : 6.56 MiB (93%)
    Color primaries                          : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
    
    Audio #1
    ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Codec ID                                 : 129
    Duration                                 : 5s 696ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 384 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 6 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 267 KiB (4%)
    Language                                 : English
    
    Audio #2
    ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
    Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Format profile                           : Dolby Digital
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Codec ID                                 : 129
    Duration                                 : 5s 664ms
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : 30ms
    Stream size                              : 133 KiB (2%)
    Language                                 : Thai
    Edit: Oops, posted the wrong one.
    Last edited by Kerry56; 22nd Aug 2014 at 10:31.
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    Wow. It just never occurred to me that 64x24 might actually be right, but the "i" is not right in what he said. That output is just so messed up it can't really be saved. I don't know a way to specify that kind of resolution in BD-Rebuilder or if you even can so it may just be a truly horrible bug, but will anybody at Doom9 actually care enough to look into it? Well....

    By the way, note that the video is so messed up with its terrible resolution and bit rate that the AC3 audio is actually larger than the video. It's NEVER good when your audio is larger than your video.
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  10. Thank you Kerry56 ,jman98 for quickly reply
    I use BD Rebuilder for a year , all 1080p video is perfectly encoded
    this is the first 1080i video for me

    This is LOG file:
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    [16:03:57] Importing M2TS: TESTT
      - Preparing M2TS for processing...
    ----------------------
    [16:04:16] Importing M2TS: TESTT
      - Preparing M2TS for processing...
      - Collecting audio/video streams from source...
      - Building pseudo-BD source structure...
    [16:04:23] Video import completed successfully.
    ----------------------
    [08-22-14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.07 (beta)
    [16:05:19] Source:  TESTT
      - Input BD size: 0.01 GB
      - Approximate total content: [00:00:05.839]
      - Target BD size: 0.01 GB
      - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
      - Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
      - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
      - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
    [16:05:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
     - [16:05:19] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
     - [16:05:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
     - [16:05:23] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
       - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
       - Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 146 frames
       - Bitrate: 8,735 Kbs
     - [16:05:23] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
     - [16:05:28] Video Encode complete
     - [16:05:28] Processing audio tracks
       - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
       - Track 4353 (tha): Keeping original audio
     - [16:05:28] Multiplexing M2TS
    [16:05:32]PHASE ONE complete
    [16:05:32]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
     - [16:05:32] Rebuilding BD file Structure
    [16:05:32] - Encode and Rebuild complete
    [16:05:32] JOB: TESTT finished.
    This is INF file:
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    [Status]
    LABEL=TESTT
    VERSION=v0.47.07 (beta)
    SOURCE_SIZE=7442400
    SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=7440384
    TARGET_SIZE=7340032
    REDUCTION=.986241570327553
    RESIZE_1080=0
    RESIZE_1440=0
    AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
    KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
    SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
    BACKUP_MODE=0
    MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
    USE_LAVF=0
    INSTANCES=1
    DGDECNV=0
    DGDECIM=0
    FRIMSOURCE=0
    SSIF_MODE=0
    QUICK=0
    ENCODE_STEP=0
    COMPLETED=1
    REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
    [00000]
    AUDIO=11
    PGS=
    APULLDOWN=0
    S1440=0
    VIDEO2=0
    V2MBRATE=0
    M2TS_TARGET=7338016
    RATE=8735
    SPLITS=1
    NSTART=27000000
    NEND=27262800
    NSIZE=706560
    FLINK=0
    MLINK=0
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    You can try the LAV filters in there.

    You are using ABR encoding, which isn't your issue, but its a setting I never use. CRF or two pass VBR for me in this program.

    Edit: There is one line in there that I don't understand. It is PGS= but there is no value at the end of it. Anyone know what that is?

    Second Edit: Removed advice to try Deinterlacing. If you are keeping the 25fps in Blu-ray, you'll need interlaced output. Since I haven't dealt with 25i, I'll let someone with experience with that format help you.
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    I believe that PGS= means that there are no selected subtitles
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  13. I just try new version BD Rebuilder 0.48.02
    Output resolution is right 1920x1080
    But new problem is video run not smooth
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    You're probably changing the frame rate from 25i fps to 24p fps and that can cause motion problems. What exactly is your reason for using BD-Rebuilder? What is your goal? What do you want do with the output and what kind of output are you trying to get? Knowing that might help us to figure out a way to help you better.
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  15. Originally Posted by ningnong132 View Post
    Today i try to encode 1920x1080i 25fps with bd rebuilder
    Use all default setting ,use deinterlacer
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    I just try new version BD Rebuilder 0.48.02
    Output resolution is right 1920x1080
    But new problem is video run not smooth

    If problem is now motion, don't deinterlace
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  16. Today , i find how to encode with smooth motion , thank you BD Rebuilder 0.48.02

    DEINTERLACER_TYPE=n n = 1-4 - 1=DECOMB w/o blend, 2=DECOMB w/blend, 3=SmoothDeinterlace, 4=Progressive (fake), 5=3+2
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