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  1. Hello,
    My wife has a private concert(h264/mp3 3.5 gb 1080p) she would like to convert to make it readable by dvd player.
    Since I had to do some authoriting for the menu, I have used Nero Video.
    This one allow me to add chapter, menu,... but has very few option for encoding. I found I could choose a VBR wich adapt to the target size but that was nearly all. Can't choose bitrate for audio encoding.
    For this reason, I have used ffmpeg to encode manually video part with the following parameter:
    Code:
    ffmpeg -i input.avi -target pal-dvd -bf 2 -mbd rd -trellis 2 -cmp 2 -subcmp 2 -me_method epzs -threads 4 -vf zscale=w=720:h=576 -qscale:v 1 -aspect 16:9 output.mpg
    I tought that with ffmpeg and qscale:v 1 I was doing kind of lossless encoding but to my surprised final size was only 2.7 gb while with nero I have filled the whole dvd. Is qscale:v 1 is well lossless ?
    My oritginal file was in 1080p so I guess that the downscaling to 720x576 explain a part of the shrink(original was 3.5 gb in h264/mp3) but still I think it's a lot compare to the nero encoding which propose me around 6gb with Highest quality(8000kb/s).
    here is the ouptut of ffmpeg
    Code:
    frame=146679 fps= 27 q=1.0 Lsize= 2783430kB time=01:37:47.12 bitrate=3886.4kbits/s speed=1.07x    
    video:2398535kB audio:320857kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB muxing overhead: 2.354862%
    I think that ffmpeg average bitrate is far under the nero encoder.
    Is it a problem for dvd playback(does it need constant bitrate ??)
    I wanted to use this file but nero seems to reencode it(didn't find a way to just copy it) but with a far less size than with direct nero encoding...
    Is it possible to create the whole dvd structure with nero(including menu) and after replace video/audio file by the ffmeg encode ?
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    In a word, no. Any authoring program will re-encode unless the source assets are dvd-compliant.

    Forget Nero and ffmeg. Just throw the file @ avstodvd and use imgburn to burn the dvd.

    btw. dvd playback is fine for variable bitrate. In fact, in most situations, it is preferred.
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  3. Well have provided Nero the mpeg2/AC3 video resulting from my ffmpeg encoding which was supposed to be standard... I only use Nero cause I want a small menu with chapter to each song..
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    Well post the mediainfo report (text mode) of the mpeg2/ac3 file.

    Only then can one be sure that it is 'standard'

    I thought avstodvd did chapter menus.
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  5. I'm not sure of what you mean by mediainfo. Here is a printscreen under Linux of the file information.
    EDIT: found mediainfo package here is the full output:
    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : Kyrielle-Z.mpg
    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    File size                                : 2.65 GiB
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 3 886 Kbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 3 361 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 9 000 Kbps
    Width                                    : 720 pixels
    Height                                   : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Standard                                 : PAL
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.324
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
    Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
    Stream size                              : 2.30 GiB (86%)
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 448 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Delay relative to video                  : -5ms
    Stream size                              : 313 MiB (12%)
    
    Menu
    
    
    General
    Count                                    : 284
    Count of stream of this kind             : 1
    Kind of stream                           : General
    Kind of stream                           : General
    Stream identifier                        : 0
    Count of video streams                   : 1
    Count of audio streams                   : 1
    Count of menu streams                    : 1
    Video_Format_List                        : MPEG Video
    Video_Format_WithHint_List               : MPEG Video
    Codecs Video                             : MPEG-2 Video
    Audio_Format_List                        : AC-3
    Audio_Format_WithHint_List               : AC-3
    Audio codecs                             : AC3
    Menu_Format_List                         : DVD-Video
    Menu_Format_WithHint_List                : DVD-Video
    Menu codecs                              : DVD-Video
    Complete name                            : Kyrielle-Z.mpg
    File name                                : Kyrielle-Z
    File extension                           : mpg
    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    Format/Extensions usually used           : mpeg mpg m2p vob pss
    Commercial name                          : MPEG-PS
    Internet media type                      : video/MP2P
    Codec                                    : MPEG-PS
    Codec                                    : MPEG-PS
    Codec/Extensions usually used            : mpeg mpg m2p vob pss
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    File size                                : 2.65 GiB
    File size                                : 3 GiB
    File size                                : 2.7 GiB
    File size                                : 2.65 GiB
    File size                                : 2.654 GiB
    Duration                                 : 5867160
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn 47s 160ms
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 01:37:47.160
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    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
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    Overall bit rate                         : 3 886 Kbps
    Stream size                              : 56722493
    Stream size                              : 54.1 MiB (2%)
    Stream size                              : 54 MiB
    Stream size                              : 54 MiB
    Stream size                              : 54.1 MiB
    Stream size                              : 54.09 MiB
    Stream size                              : 54.1 MiB (2%)
    Proportion of this stream                : 0.01990
    File last modification date              : UTC 2016-01-13 21:17:10
    File last modification date (local)      : 2016-01-13 22:17:10
    
    Video
    Count                                    : 273
    Count of stream of this kind             : 1
    Kind of stream                           : Video
    Kind of stream                           : Video
    Stream identifier                        : 0
    FirstPacketOrder                         : 0
    ID                                       : 224
    ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Commercial name                          : MPEG-2 Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings                          : BVOP
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
    Internet media type                      : video/MPV
    Codec                                    : MPEG-2V
    Codec                                    : MPEG-2 Video
    Codec/Family                             : MPEG-V
    Codec profile                            : Main@Main
    Codec settings, Matrix                   : Default
    Duration                                 : 5867160
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn 47s 160ms
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 01:37:47.160
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    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 3361016
    Bit rate                                 : 3 361 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 9000000
    Maximum bit rate                         : 9 000 Kbps
    Width                                    : 720
    Width                                    : 720 pixels
    Height                                   : 576
    Height                                   : 576 pixels
    Pixel aspect ratio                       : 1.422
    Display aspect ratio                     : 1.778
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Frame count                              : 146679
    Standard                                 : PAL
    Resolution                               : 8
    Resolution                               : 8 bits
    Colorimetry                              : 4:2:0
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Interlacement                            : PPF
    Interlacement                            : Progressive
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.324
    Delay                                    : 540.000
    Delay                                    : 540ms
    Delay                                    : 540ms
    Delay                                    : 540ms
    Delay                                    : 00:00:00.540
    Delay_DropFrame                          : No
    Delay, origin                            : Container
    Delay, origin                            : Container
    Delay_Original                           : 0
    Delay_Original                           : 00:00:00.000
    Delay_Original_Settings                  : drop_frame_flag=0 / closed_gop=1 / broken_link=0
    Delay_Original_DropFrame                 : No
    Delay_Original_Source                    : Stream
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
    Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
    Stream size                              : 2464952003
    Stream size                              : 2.30 GiB (86%)
    Stream size                              : 2 GiB
    Stream size                              : 2.3 GiB
    Stream size                              : 2.30 GiB
    Stream size                              : 2.296 GiB
    Stream size                              : 2.30 GiB (86%)
    Proportion of this stream                : 0.86482
    Buffer size                              : 229376
    intra_dc_precision                       : 8
    
    Audio
    Count                                    : 235
    Count of stream of this kind             : 1
    Kind of stream                           : Audio
    Kind of stream                           : Audio
    Stream identifier                        : 0
    StreamOrder                              : 0
    FirstPacketOrder                         : 1
    ID                                       : 189-128
    ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Commercial name                          : AC-3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
    Codec                                    : AC3
    Codec                                    : AC3
    Duration                                 : 5867104
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn 47s 104ms
    Duration                                 : 1h 37mn
    Duration                                 : 01:37:47.104
    Bit rate mode                            : CBR
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 448000
    Bit rate                                 : 448 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Channel positions                        : 2/0/0
    ChannelLayout                            : L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48000
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    Frame count                              : 183347
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    Bit depth                                : 16
    Bit depth                                : 16 bits
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    Compression mode                         : Lossy
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    Delay                                    : 535ms
    Delay                                    : 535ms
    Delay                                    : 535ms
    Delay                                    : 00:00:00.535
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    Delay relative to video                  : -5
    Delay relative to video                  : -5ms
    Delay relative to video                  : -5ms
    Delay relative to video                  : -5ms
    Delay relative to video                  : -00:00:00.005
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    Video0 delay                             : -5ms
    Video0 delay                             : -00:00:00.005
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    Stream size                              : 313 MiB
    Stream size                              : 313 MiB
    Stream size                              : 313 MiB
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    Proportion of this stream                : 0.11527
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    dialnorm_Maximum/String                  : -31 dB
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    Menu
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    Kind of stream                           : Menu
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    At a quick glance the video is dvd-compliant. It is tho progressive but then your original source was also ?. Interlaced is IMO always better for dvd.

    So maybe Nero does not like a progressive source for dvd. Of course, it might not re-encode that video - check for a 'do not re-encode compliant video' setting.

    If Nero defaults to 6000 kbps it is going to re-encode regardless.

    Even so, the bit rate is quite low - will fit on single-sided media. Will not look great on a large tv.

    The other issue is that re-encoding that source will not improve the quality since you can not put back what has already been taken out in that first encode. One more reason to just let one tool do the encoding from the original.
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  7. Thanks for the reply. Source is indeed progressive so as nero video output. I could try to interlaced it however.
    Didn't find any "dont encode" option but will check once again. Nero offer to either encode to a given bitrate or to use an adapted bitrate depending on dvd size.
    Well bitrate ouptut from ffmpeg is low while I have set quantizer to 1 which should be the best quality...
    That's for common user who don't even have a blue-ray player so I have to live with it and encode in DVD format...
    I know that reencoding a video won't improve the quality and in my case reencoding a video with an older encoder should even give me something bigger than the original if I didn't downscale the video.
    I have already asked if the given source was already encoded by someone cause 3000kbp/s is rather low for 1080p but had no answer till now....
    EDIT: found that if smart encoding is enable, there is a checkbox "standard" which should avoid nero to re-encode if video/audio is already in standard mode. Hope this will work...
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  8. Hum still doesn't work even with smart encoding and standard checked...
    Here is the mediainfo of the ouptut(don't see any dif with my provided mpeg2):
    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : H:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    File size                                : 1 024 MiB
    Duration                                 : 39mn 10s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 3 655 Kbps
    Writing library                          : Created by NeMpeg2Enc (2016-01-14T21-03-12)
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Default
    Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
    Duration                                 : 39mn 10s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 3 390 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 9 586 Kbps
    Width                                    : 720 pixels
    Height                                   : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Standard                                 : PAL
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.327
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
    Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
    Stream size                              : 950 MiB (93%)
    Writing library                          : Created by NeMpeg2Enc (2016-01-14T21-03-12)
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
    Duration                                 : 39mn 9s
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 53.8 MiB (5%)
    
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    Bottom line is that I do not trust Nero.

    How can one have a progressive video that has a scan order ?

    Is this 'smart' encoding not to re-encode compliant video since if it is then it does not work since both video AND audio have been re-encoded.

    Add to that you have apparently lost some 59 minutes (was 1hr 38 - now 39 mins) of your video. Which essentially means that mediainfo can not correctly read the video header.

    Just do me a favour. Even without the menu for the sampling. Run the original h264 source through avstodvd and post the report of that.
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  10. Well I have open one of the VOB file that's why it's only 39 min long...
    I have install avstodvd and simply add the file and run the "encode". With my ffmpeg encoded file It took less than 2 minutes so it didn't reencode it.
    I'm currently running the h264 source file. Will post it when done.
    Here is the report for mpeg2 source
    Code:
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    START PROCESS
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:02>
    PROJECT SETTINGS
    
    DVD Video Standard: PAL
    DVD Titles number: 1
    DVD Size: 2726/4450 MB (61%)
    DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
    DVD Label: DVD
    DVD Menu: Static Menu
    Output Folder: D:
    Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
    Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
    Edit Command Parameters: No
    Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window
    
    PREFERENCES
    
    MultiThread: 1
    AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
    Frame Adjust Strategy: 0
    FPS Hard Conversion: 0
    PAL SpeedUp: 0
    NTSC SlowDown: 0
    Video Resolution: 0
    Video Encoder: 0
    Video BitRate Min: 2500
    Video BitRate Max: 8500
    Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
    AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
    Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Format: 0
    DVD Audio BitRate: 192
    Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
    Normalize Audio: 0
    Auto Delay Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (255,255,255)
    Chapters Interval: 5
    Use Source Chapters: 1
    DVD Burning Drive: H:\
    DVD Burning Speed: 4x
    Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
    Unload ActiveMovie library: 1
    Adjust DirectShow Filters at runtime: 1
    Save General Settings: 0
    
    SYSTEM INFO
    
    Processor Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3258 @ 3.20GHz
    Operating System: Windows 8  (64 bit)
    Current user is Admin: YES
    Available Output Disc Space: 166 GB
    AviSynth is installed: YES (release 2.6.0)
    LAV Filters is installed: YES (release 0.65.0)
    ffdshow is installed: NO
    
    CODECS REPORT
    
    H.264/AVC: Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
    Xvid: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    DivX 4/5/6: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    Other MPG4: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    DV: DV Video Decoder {B1B77C00-C3E4-11cf-AF79-00AA00B67A42}
    MPEG1: MPEG Video Codec {feb50740-7bef-11ce-9bd9-0000e202599c}
    MPEG2: Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
    MP2: Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder {E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}
    MP3: MP3 Decoder DMO {BBEEA841-0A63-4F52-A7AB-A9B3A84ED38A}
    AAC: Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder {E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}
    AC3: No Preferred Filter set
    
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    TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
    Video: D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg
    Info: MPEG-2 Video - 3361 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:37:47 hours - 146679 frames
    Audio 1: D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg
    Info: AC3 - 448 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 1:37:47 hours (-5 ms delay)
    [MediaInfoLib - v0.7.74]
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:02>
    AVISYNTH SCRIPT
    Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")
    
    # Video is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
    Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg", CacheFolder="C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp", FrameRateNum=25, FrameRateDen=1, FrameRate=25)
    # Audio is frameserved by AviSynth just for Preview and Edit purposes.
    Audio = A2DAudioSource("D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg", CacheFolder="C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp")
    
    Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
    
    AudioDub(Video, Audio)
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:02>
    DIRECTSHOW AUDIO MIXER OPERATIONS:
    No LAV Filters mixer ON/OFF adjustment required at runtime
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:02>
    START VIDEO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
    Video Encoding Profile: Direct Copy (FFmpeg Demux)
    Target Video FileSize: 2350,7 MB
    Demuxing Parameters: -i "D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg" -c:v copy -an -sn -y "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard.m2v"
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:13>
    END VIDEO DEMUXING OPERATIONS
    Created File: C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard.m2v (2342,3 MB)
    OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 3348 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps - Progressive - 1:37:47 hours - 146679 frames
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:13>
    START AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    FFmpeg Parameters: -i "D:\Kyrielle-DVD-standard.mpg" -c:a copy -vn -sn -y "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard_1.ToFix.ac3"
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:17>
    START AC3 FIXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    ac3fix Parameters: "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard_1.ToFix.ac3" "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard_1.ac3"
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:32>
    END AUDIO DEMUXING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    Created File: C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard_1.ac3 (313,3 MB)
    OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 448 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 1:37:47 hours (0 ms delay)
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:32>
    START DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
    DVD Menu settings:
    Style: 0
    Aspect Ratio: 1
    Titles Format: 1
    Template: Blue Rain
    Max Titles Page: 12
    Enable Play All: 1
    Force Play All: 0
    Background Audio: 0
    Max Thumbs Row: 4
    Thumb Image Source: 0
    Thumb Frame Position: 10%
    HL Frame Format: 0
    HL Selection Color: 5
    HL Play Color: 0
    Menu Video BitRate: 6000 kbps
    Motion Menu Duration: 15 seconds
    Thumb Drop Shadow: 2
    Play All Shadow: 2
    Arrows Shadow: 0
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:33>
    END DVD MENU BUILDING OPERATIONS
    Created File (Menu Page 1): C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_MenuPage1.bmp (1,2 MB)
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:33>
    START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_BatchMux.ini"
    BatchMux ini file:
    -d "D:\DVD\VIDEO_TS"
    -mxp "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_MuxMan.mxp"
    -l "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_MuxMan.log"
    -muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
    -prio LOW
    -palette "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_Palette.txt"
    -v "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard.m2v"
    -vidmode LB
    -a1 "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Kyrielle-DVD-standard_1.ac3"
    -a1lang en
    -SEG2v "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_MenuPage1.bmp"
    -SEG2vidmode LB
    -SEG2s1 "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_Menu.sst"
    -SEG2s1dmode WIDE_LB
    -SEG2hlmnu "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_MenuPage1_Buttons.mnu"
    -SEG2hlcsm "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_HighlightScheme.csm
    -hcn "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_BatchMux.hcn"
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:57>
    END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    Created Folder: D:\DVD (2716,3 MB)
    
    CHECK DVD SIZE
    DVD Folder (actual) Size: 2716,3 MB
    vs Assets Size: 2656,8 MB -> OK
    vs Estimated Size: 2726 MB -> 0,4% undersize
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:46:57>
    AVStoDVD Project ended successfully.
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    <14/01/2016 23:46:57>
    Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.8.3
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    Last edited by thetrueavatar; 14th Jan 2016 at 16:58.
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  11. Here is the report with h264 source conversion:
    Code:
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    START PROCESS
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    <14/01/2016 23:50:52>
    PROJECT SETTINGS
    
    DVD Video Standard: PAL
    DVD Titles number: 1
    DVD Size: 4450/4450 MB (100%)
    DVD Output Setup: DVD Folder
    DVD Label: DVD
    DVD Menu: No Menu
    Output Folder: D:
    Delete Temp Assets Files: Yes
    Delete Temp Working Files: Yes
    Edit Command Parameters: No
    Post Process Task: Show Progress Status window
    
    PREFERENCES
    
    MultiThread: 1
    AVS Video Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS Audio Source Filter: A2DSource
    AVS UpSize/DownSize Filter: Lanczos4Resize/Spline16Resize
    Frame Adjust Strategy: 0
    FPS Hard Conversion: 0
    PAL SpeedUp: 0
    NTSC SlowDown: 0
    Video Resolution: 0
    Video Encoder: 0
    Video BitRate Min: 2500
    Video BitRate Max: 8500
    Keep DVD Compliant Video: 1
    AC3 Audio Encoder: 0
    Force FFmpeg for Long Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Format: 0
    DVD Audio BitRate: 192
    Keep DVD Compliant Audio: 1
    Normalize Audio: 0
    Auto Delay Audio: 1
    DVD Audio Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Audio Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Primary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Language (Secondary): EN - English
    DVD Subs Font: Tahoma 16pt (255,255,255)
    Chapters Interval: 5
    Use Source Chapters: 1
    DVD Burning Drive: H:\
    DVD Burning Speed: 4x
    Auto Erase DVD RW: 1
    Unload ActiveMovie library: 1
    Adjust DirectShow Filters at runtime: 1
    Save General Settings: 0
    
    SYSTEM INFO
    
    Processor Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3258 @ 3.20GHz
    Operating System: Windows 8  (64 bit)
    Current user is Admin: YES
    Available Output Disc Space: 163 GB
    AviSynth is installed: YES (release 2.6.0)
    LAV Filters is installed: YES (release 0.65.0)
    ffdshow is installed: NO
    
    CODECS REPORT
    
    H.264/AVC: Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
    Xvid: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    DivX 4/5/6: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    Other MPG4: Mpeg4s Decoder DMO {2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}
    DV: DV Video Decoder {B1B77C00-C3E4-11cf-AF79-00AA00B67A42}
    MPEG1: MPEG Video Codec {feb50740-7bef-11ce-9bd9-0000e202599c}
    MPEG2: Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder {212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}
    MP2: Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder {E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}
    MP3: MP3 Decoder DMO {BBEEA841-0A63-4F52-A7AB-A9B3A84ED38A}
    AAC: Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder {E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}
    AC3: No Preferred Filter set
    
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    <14/01/2016 23:50:52>
    TITLE 1 SOURCE FILES
    Video: D:\Kyrielle montage tout OK.avi
    Info: AVC - 4496 kbps - 1920x1080 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps (VFR) - Progressive - 1:37:47 hours - 146679 frames
    Audio 1: D:\Kyrielle montage tout OK.avi
    Info: MPEG-1 Audio layer 3 - 256 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 1:37:47 hours (0 ms delay)
    [MediaInfoLib - v0.7.74]
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:50:52>
    AVISYNTH SCRIPT
    Import("C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Lib\A2DSource.avsi")
    
    Video = A2DVideoSource("D:\Kyrielle montage tout OK.avi", CacheFolder="C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp", VFR=true, FrameRateNum=25, FrameRateDen=1, FrameRate=25)
    Audio = A2DAudioSource("D:\Kyrielle montage tout OK.avi", CacheFolder="C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp")
    
    Video = Video.ConvertToYV12()
    Video = Video.Spline16Resize(720,576)
    
    AudioDub(Video, Audio)
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:50:52>
    DIRECTSHOW AUDIO MIXER OPERATIONS:
    No LAV Filters mixer ON/OFF adjustment required at runtime
    <>
    
    <14/01/2016 23:50:52>
    START VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
    Video Encoding Profile: HCenc VBR 1-pass
    Target Video FileSize: 4216 MB
    Encoding Parameters: -ini "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK.HCenc.ini"
    HCenc ini file:
    *INFILE C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_1.avs
    *AVSRELOAD
    *OUTFILE C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK.m2v
    *LOGFILE C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK.HCenc.log
    *MAXBITRATE 9000
    *1PASS
    *BITRATE 6028
    *PROFILE BEST
    *ASPECT 16:9
    *PROGRESSIVE
    *TFF
    *BIAS 60
    *DC_PREC 10
    *MATRIX MPEG
    *AQ 1
    *LUMGAIN 1
    *SMP
    *PRIORITY IDLE
    *DBPATH  C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp
    *WAIT 2
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:18:51>
    END VIDEO ENCODING OPERATIONS
    Video Source Filter: A2DSource (AVISource)
    Created File: C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK.m2v (4155,4 MB)
    OUTPUT VIDEO INFO: MPEG-2 Video - 5941 kbps - 720x576 - DAR 16:9 - 25 fps - Progressive (TFF) - 1:37:47 hours - 146679 frames
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:18:51>
    START AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    Wavi+Aften Parameters: "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_1.avs" - | "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\Aften\aften.exe" -b 192 -pad 0 -dynrng 5 -bwfilter 0 - "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_1.ac3"
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:19:39>
    END AUDIO ENCODING OPERATIONS (Track 1)
    Audio Source Filter: A2DSource (DirectShowSource)
    Created File: C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_1.ac3 (134,3 MB)
    OUTPUT AUDIO INFO: AC3 - 192 kbps - CBR - 2 ch - 48000 Hz - 1:37:47 hours (0 ms delay)
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:19:39>
    DVD CHAPTERS CREATION OPERATIONS
    Title 1 Input Chapters List: 7500 15000 22500 30000 37500 45000 52500 60000 67500 75000 82500 90000 97500 105000 112500 120000 127500 135000 142500
    Title 1 Output Chapters List: 7500 15000 22500 30000 37500 45000 52500 60000 67500 75000 82500 90000 97500 105000 112500 120000 127500 135000 142500 
    Created File: C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_Chapters.txt (140 Byte)
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:19:39>
    START DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    BatchMux Parameters: -arglist "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_BatchMux.ini"
    BatchMux ini file:
    -d "D:\DVD_1\VIDEO_TS"
    -mxp "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_MuxMan.mxp"
    -l "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_MuxMan.log"
    -muxman "C:\Program Files (x86)\AVStoDVD\MuxMan"
    -prio LOW
    -palette "C:\Users\clibois\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1_Palette.txt"
    -v "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK.m2v"
    -vidmode LB
    -a1 "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_1.ac3"
    -a1lang en
    -cellfr "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_Chapters.txt"
    -progfr "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_Chapters.txt"
    -chapfr "C:\Users\clibois\Videos\DVD_1_Kyrielle montage tout OK_Chapters.txt"
    
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:20:14>
    END DVD AUTHORING OPERATIONS
    Created Folder: D:\DVD_1 (4368,7 MB)
    
    CHECK DVD SIZE
    DVD Folder (actual) Size: 4368,7 MB
    vs Assets Size: 4289,7 MB -> OK
    vs Estimated Size: 4450 MB -> 1,8% undersize
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:20:15>
    AVStoDVD Project ended successfully.
    <>
    
    <15/01/2016 01:20:15>
    Log file created by AVStoDVD Release 2.8.3
    <>
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    Ok. Did not want to see the avstodvd bug report. Just post the mediainfo report as before. Although if I read correctly it has 'filled' a single-layer disk.

    Avstodvd can also create a single mpeg2 file but that is not necessary in this case. A single vob is fine.
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  13. Here it is
    Code:
    General
    Complete name                            : D:\DVD_1\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB
    Format                                   : MPEG-PS
    File size                                : 1 024 MiB
    Duration                                 : 21mn 44s
    Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Overall bit rate                         : 6 586 Kbps
    
    Video
    ID                                       : 224 (0xE0)
    Format                                   : MPEG Video
    Format version                           : Version 2
    Format profile                           : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
    Format settings, GOP                     : Variable
    Duration                                 : 21mn 44s
    Bit rate mode                            : Variable
    Bit rate                                 : 6 263 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate                         : 9 000 Kbps
    Width                                    : 720 pixels
    Height                                   : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
    Frame rate                               : 25.000 fps
    Standard                                 : PAL
    Color space                              : YUV
    Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                                : 8 bits
    Scan type                                : Progressive
    Scan order                               : Top Field First
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.604
    Time code of first frame                 : 00:00:00:00
    Time code source                         : Group of pictures header
    GOP, Open/Closed                         : Open
    GOP, Open/Closed of first frame          : Closed
    Stream size                              : 974 MiB (95%)
    
    Audio
    ID                                       : 189 (0xBD)-128 (0x80)
    Format                                   : AC-3
    Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
    Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
    Format settings, Endianness              : Big
    Muxing mode                              : DVD-Video
    Duration                                 : 21mn 44s
    Bit rate mode                            : Constant
    Bit rate                                 : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
    Channel positions                        : Front: L R
    Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                         : Lossy
    Stream size                              : 29.8 MiB (3%)
    
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    Thanks.

    Obviously, a better bitrate from the original source. But you now note that it is 21 mins per vob rather than the 39 that Nero produced.

    So that means more vobs but is still fitting on to a single-sided disk (well it should)
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  15. Tried to provided it to nero but once again nero reencode it... I'm wondering if it's not preferable to do the encoding directly by nero even if it's not optimize instead of a double reencoding...
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    I forget what encoder Nero uses but avstodvd has two or three (depends on the type of encode - 1 pass or two - you do but can be over-ridden) and all are IMO far superior to anything that Nero can produce.

    Look at the chapters option for avstodvd and the menu - may have to dig deep for that (menu editor etc.)
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  17. Ok. I will see if I have enough time to play with it or if my wife needs the encoding tonight. I have noticed to there was 2 encoder but why is ffmpeg in CBR only ? Wanted to use a quantizer mode instead as I did before.
    Anyway thanks for the time involved to help me in this nightmare
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    ^^ You would have to ask the developer about that.

    _MrC_ is an active member of the forum and there is a mighty long support thread about the program.

    Most tools can be tweaked so I would not be surprised if that is not possible. But why worry right now. You have (I would imagine) a good quality encode.
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  19. Ok I will get a hand on the orignal source file which are 500gb... They have just converted MOV file thinking it was only a mac file type...
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    ^^ There was a time when .mov did just mean Apple Quicktime. But these days its just another container format which could hold mpeg2, h264 etc.

    BTW when I said 'original source' I meant the 3.5 gig h264. H264 compresses better than mpeg2 and you may not see any great improvement from that 500 gig monster unless it is a lossless format. Will also take quite some time to compress down to dvd.
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  21. My guess is that's a kind of raw/lossless video but indeed I'm not sure to be able to encode it in a decent time ...
    I have tried the dvd authoriting from avstovideo with no success till now but I have to learn how to use it .
    Thank for all your help.
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