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    How can I edit TV recordings in .TSV format?
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    Not much to go on - suggest you get MediaInfo and post a log of the .TSV file
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    There are three streams:

    1) Video: AVC (Main@L3.0)
    2) Audio: MPEG (Version 1, Layer 2)
    3) Text: Teletext
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    The complete log would have be useful - should look like thsi for example
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    ID : 545 (0x221)
    Complete name : E:\BeyonwizTransfers\Contraptions 2011-05-26.ts
    Format : MPEG-TS
    File size : 164 MiB
    Duration : 4mn 58s
    Overall bit rate : 4 589 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 512 (0x200)
    Menu ID : 545 (0x221)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Format settings, GOP : M=3, N=12
    Codec ID : 2
    Duration : 4mn 58s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 4 104 Kbps
    Nominal bit rate : 10 000 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 6 642 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : PAL
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.396
    Stream size : 146 MiB (89%)

    Audio
    ID : 650 (0x28A)
    Menu ID : 545 (0x221)
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 2
    Codec ID : 4
    Duration : 4mn 58s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 256 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 288 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -722ms
    Stream size : 9.12 MiB (6%)
    Language : English

    Text
    ID : 576 (0x240)-801
    Menu ID : 545 (0x221)
    Format : Teletext Subtitle
    Language : English

    Menu
    ID : 256 (0x100)
    Menu ID : 545 (0x221)
    List : 512 (0x200) (MPEG Video) / 576 (0x240) () / 650 (0x28A) (MPEG Audio, English)
    Language : / / English
    Maximum bit rate : 7048000

    However from the minimum info you have supplied it looks like a MPEGTS file so you could simply rename the suffix to MPG or TS and programs like
    MPEGStreamclip will open it and a be able to do simple edits like top and tailing and editing out commercials and then save to a variety of formats.
    If you want to do more complex editing then there's Womble etc.
    After renaming to say .TS I would run it through ProjectX in demux mode to give you separate audio, video and subtitles tracks and clean up any transmission errors etc.
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    Complete log:

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    ID : 200 (0xC8)
    Complete name : C:\TEST.TSV
    Format : MPEG-TS
    File size : 2.43 GiB
    Duration : 2h 17mn
    Overall bit rate : 2 538 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 3031 (0xBD7)
    Menu ID : 33 (0x21)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
    Format settings, GOP : M=4, N=32
    Codec ID : 27
    Duration : 2h 17mn
    Bit rate : 2 218 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : Component
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.214
    Stream size : 2.12 GiB (87%)
    Color primaries : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM
    Transfer characteristics : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G
    Matrix coefficients : BT.470-6 System B, BT.470-6 System G, BT.601-6 625, BT.1358 625, BT.1700 625 PAL, BT.1700 625 SECAM, IEC 61966-2-4 601

    Audio
    ID : 3032 (0xBD8)
    Menu ID : 33 (0x21)
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 2
    Codec ID : 4
    Duration : 2h 17mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -743ms
    Stream size : 188 MiB (8%)
    Language : English

    Text
    ID : 132 (0x84)-100
    Menu ID : 33 (0x21)
    Format : Teletext
    Language : English

    Menu
    ID : 47 (0x2F)
    Menu ID : 33 (0x21)
    Duration : 2h 17mn
    List : 132 (0x84) () / 3031 (0xBD7) (AVC) / 3032 (0xBD8) (MPEG Audio, English)
    Language : / / English


    I get the message "unsupported file type" if I try to open in MPEGStreamclip and if I choose to continue anyway it stops responding.
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    OK that logs confirms TS - what do you want to do exactly?

    Do you need subtitles? because they are present.
    Do you simply want to top and tail and remove commercials if any?

    The best program for this type of format and source is the less than friendly looking ProjectX as it will fix quite a few errors in transmission if you select To Demux ie this produces separate video, audio and subtitle tracks ( you need to insert the correct page number for what country you are in for this to work and select srt - in Australia for example it is page 801)

    You can do simple edits ie top and tail and commercial removal in ProjectX - this ensures the subtitle track will be in sync so you don't have to fiddle later. The cut in cut out interface is similar to VideRedo but not as pretty!

    If you simply want to edit it then select To M2P and then change the suffix to mpg after it has done the job. This selection will make a fairly normal mpeg file that you can edit in any mpeg editor like Womble or VideRedo - for freeware programs do a Google search or the Tools section on this forum. In setting up ProjectX you can refer to my wiki under my signature but you will have to change the subtitle page number to suit local requirements
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  7. @netmask56: since then does ProjectX support H.264 videostreams? Last time I checked ProjectX only supported MPEG-2/1 Videostreams,... (reading you post it sounds like ProjectX could be used to edit H.264 videostreams inside a transportstream)

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    tsMuxeR and ffmpeg should both be capable to extract the raw streams.
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    Ah yes you are correct - I didn't notice Format : AVC well that puts a spanner in the works! Alas ProjectX is of no use.
    I do hope OoZooN will add H264 and maybe even rudimentary audio monitoring.
    As far as I know there isn't a direct ProjectX equivalent for H264 files that will demux all the elements.
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    Could you suggest the best editing approach for me too netmask?

    I'm just editing TV News files of one hour duration: e.g. taking out random stories of 1/5 mins each...

    Thanks man!

    General
    ID : 1002 (0x3EA)
    Complete name : F:\01 AAA PROJECT\01 January 2014\01 News Jan 2014\20 Jan Mon - News - (20012014_175741) - FULL 1HR\ AAA(20012014_175741).TSV
    Format : MPEG-TS
    File size : 2.72 GiB
    Duration : 1h 4mn
    Overall bit rate : 6 083 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 2101 (0x835)
    Menu ID : 2101 (0x835)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : 27
    Duration : 1h 4mn
    Bit rate : 5 589 Kbps
    Width : 1 440 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.144
    Stream size : 2.50 GiB (92%)
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709

    Audio
    ID : 2201 (0x899)
    Menu ID : 2101 (0x835)
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 2
    Codec ID : 3
    Duration : 1h 4mn
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 192 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -633ms
    Stream size : 88.0 MiB (3%)
    Language : English

    Text
    ID : 2301 (0x8FD)-888
    Menu ID : 2101 (0x835)
    Format : Teletext Subtitle
    Language : English

    Menu
    ID : 2001 (0x7D1)
    Menu ID : 2101 (0x835)
    List : 2101 (0x835) (AVC) / 1002 (0x3EA) () / 2201 (0x899) (MPEG Audio, English) / 2211 (0x8A3) (MPEG Audio) / 2301 (0x8FD) ()
    Language : / / English
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