Brand new, store bought, bad disk?- Star Wars

[JSB]

Well I got Star Wars Trilogy today... figured I would back it up before my three year old gets a hold of it.

I pop A New Hope in my Nec 2500A (running hacked 1.07 firmware) , start DVD43 and DVD Shrink 3.2. About half way through I get a CRC error.

I searched though the forum and saw threads stating to try DVD Decrypter. I DL the lastest version (3.5.1.0) and have at it.

I 19:50:53 DV.D DecrypterVersion 3.5.1.0 started!
I 19:50:53 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 1)
I 19:50:53 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:50:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:50:53 Found 1 DVD±RW!
W 19:50:56 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 19:50:56 Media region code: 1
W 19:51:02 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
I 19:52:31 Operation Started!
I 19:52:31 Source Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A 1.07 (D:) (ATA)
I 19:52:31 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 19:52:31 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 19:52:31 Source Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 19:52:31 Destination Folder: C:\A_NEW_HOPE\VIDEO_TS\
I 19:52:31 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 19:52:31 File Splitting: By File
I 19:52:31 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 19:52:31 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 19:52:31 Stream Processing: No
I 19:52:31 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 2155 - 2218) - KEY: N/A
I 19:52:32 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 301890 - 826161) - KEY: N/A
I 19:55:23 Copying VTS_02_2.VOB... (LBA: 826162 - 1350433) - KEY: N/A
I 19:57:41 Copying VTS_02_3.VOB... (LBA: 1350434 - 1874705) - KEY: N/A
I 19:59:39 Copying VTS_02_4.VOB... (LBA: 1874706 - 2398977) - KEY: N/A
E 20:00:45 Failed to read Sector 1993008 - No Seek Complete
E 20:00:45 Failed to copy VTS_02_4.VOB!
I 20:00:48 Copying VTS_02_5.VOB... (LBA: 2398978 - 2923249) - KEY: N/A
I 20:00:53 Abort Request Acknowledged
E 20:00:53 Failed to copy VTS_02_5.VOB!
E 20:00:54 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:08:23
E 20:00:54 Average Read Rate: 6,743 KB/s (4.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 10,230 KB/s (7.4x)

Foiled again....

I open up DVDinfoPro v2.54 and do an error search....




errors...

Drive - _NEC    DVD_RW ND-2500A 
Media ID Code -            
Media Type - DVD-ROM
Read Error list
1. Error - LBA = 001e6930h
2. Error - LBA = 001e6931h
3. Error - LBA = 001e6932h
4. Error - LBA = 001e6933h
5. Error - LBA = 001e6934h
6. Error - LBA = 001e6935h
7. Error - LBA = 001e6936h
8. Error - LBA = 001e6937h
9. Error - LBA = 001e6938h
10. Error - LBA = 001e6939h
11. Error - LBA = 001e693ah
12. Error - LBA = 001e693bh
13. Error - LBA = 001e693ch
14. Error - LBA = 001e693dh
15. Error - LBA = 001e693eh
16. Error - LBA = 001e693fh
17. Error - LBA = 001e6940h
18. Error - LBA = 001e6941h
19. Error - LBA = 001e6942h
20. Error - LBA = 001e6943h
21. Error - LBA = 001e6944h
22. Error - LBA = 001e6945h
23. Error - LBA = 001fb960h
24. Error - LBA = 001fb961h
25. Error - LBA = 001fb962h
26. Error - LBA = 001fb963h
27. Error - LBA = 001fb964h
28. Error - LBA = 001fb965h
29. Error - LBA = 001fb966h
30. Error - LBA = 001fb967h
31. Error - LBA = 001fb968h
32. Error - LBA = 001fb969h
33. Error - LBA = 001fb96ah
34. Error - LBA = 001fb96bh
35. Error - LBA = 001fb96ch
36. Error - LBA = 001fb96dh
37. Error - LBA = 001fb96eh
38. Error - LBA = 001fb96fh
39. Error - LBA = 001fb970h
40. Error - LBA = 001fb971h
41. Error - LBA = 001fb972h
42. Error - LBA = 001fb973h
43. Error - LBA = 001fb974h
44. Error - LBA = 001fb975h
45. Error - LBA = 001fb976h
46. Error - LBA = 001fb977h
47. Error - LBA = 001fb978h
48. Error - LBA = 001fb979h
49. Error - LBA = 001fb97ah
50. Error - LBA = 001fb97bh
51. Error - LBA = 001fb97ch
52. Error - LBA = 001fb97dh
53. Error - LBA = 001fb97eh
54. Error - LBA = 001fb97fh
55. Error - LBA = 001fb980h
56. Error - LBA = 001fb981h
57. Error - LBA = 001fb982h
58. Error - LBA = 001fb983h
59. Error - LBA = 001fb984h
60. Error - LBA = 001fb985h
61. Error - LBA = 001fb986h
62. Error - LBA = 001fb987h
63. Error - LBA = 001fb988h
64. Error - LBA = 001fb989h
65. Error - LBA = 001fb98ah
66. Error - LBA = 001fb98bh
67. Error - LBA = 001fc230h
68. Error - LBA = 001fc231h
69. Error - LBA = 001fc232h
70. Error - LBA = 001fc233h
71. Error - LBA = 001fc234h
72. Error - LBA = 001fc235h
73. Error - LBA = 001fc236h
74. Error - LBA = 001fc237h
75. Error - LBA = 001fc238h
76. Error - LBA = 001fc239h
77. Error - LBA = 001fc23ah
78. Error - LBA = 001fc23bh
79. Error - LBA = 001fc23ch
80. Error - LBA = 001fc23dh
81. Error - LBA = 001fc23eh
82. Error - LBA = 001fc23fh
83. Error - LBA = 001fc240h
84. Error - LBA = 001fc241h
85. Error - LBA = 001fc242h
86. Error - LBA = 001fc243h
87. Error - LBA = 001fc244h
88. Error - LBA = 001fc245h
89. Error - LBA = 001fc246h
90. Error - LBA = 001fc247h
91. Error - LBA = 001fc248h
92. Error - LBA = 001fc249h
93. Error - LBA = 001fc24ah
94. Error - LBA = 001fc24bh
95. Error - LBA = 001fc24ch
96. Error - LBA = 001fc24dh
97. Error - LBA = 001fc24eh
98. Error - LBA = 001fc24fh
99. Error - LBA = 001fc670h
100. Error - LBA = 001fc671h
101. Error - LBA = 001fc672h
102. Error - LBA = 001fc673h
103. Error - LBA = 001fc674h
104. Error - LBA = 001fc675h
105. Error - LBA = 001fc676h
106. Error - LBA = 001fc677h
107. Error - LBA = 001fc678h
108. Error - LBA = 001fc679h
109. Error - LBA = 001fc67ah
110. Error - LBA = 001fc67bh
111. Error - LBA = 001fc67ch
112. Error - LBA = 001fc67dh
113. Error - LBA = 001fc67eh
114. Error - LBA = 001fc67fh
115. Error - LBA = 001fc680h
116. Error - LBA = 001fc681h
117. Error - LBA = 001fc682h
118. Error - LBA = 001fc683h
119. Error - LBA = 001fc684h
120. Error - LBA = 001fc685h
121. Error - LBA = 001fc686h
122. Error - LBA = 001fc687h
123. Error - LBA = 001fc688h
124. Error - LBA = 001fc689h
125. Error - LBA = 001fc68ah
126. Error - LBA = 001fc68bh
127. Error - LBA = 001fc68ch
128. Error - LBA = 001fc68dh
129. Error - LBA = 001fc68eh
130. Error - LBA = 001fc68fh

BTW this a brand spanking new DVD, absolutly no visible problems with the surface of the dvd. So do I have a bad dvd?

Thanks,
JSB

BTW the other two dvd's ripped fine.


Edit: removed "hmmm damn image will not load.. well there are 4 red dots in a sea of green" Thanks Capmaster! BTW I tried to find the info you posted... no luck last night.

[guns1inger]

No manufacturing process is completely perfect, and the rror checking built in to your player means this may play fine. It's only when you want to copy bit for bit that you hit a problem. You could try playing it, see if it glitches, and if so you are within your rights to take it back.

If it plays OK, you might be able to make a case that it is still faulty based on this check, you would have to be careful how you explained it though.

[budz]

I'd just take it back and tell them it skips or something.

[Halm]

I got the same error in the same VOB. As near a I can tell, it's a bogus VOB file...not used for the movie. Seems it's there to defeat a decrypter...SmartRipper and DVD Decrypter both blew up at the same point.

I told DVD Decrypter to skip the file and decrypt the remainder of the disk. Then I copied another good VOB and renamed it to the missing filename. Shrink liked it and it seems to be fine.

[Fandim]

I got this on both the extra's disc, and a new hope.

here's how to beat it.

DVD Decrypter - > File Mode
Turn ignore read errors on, read retries 0.

It'll take about 2 extra min to get through the errors.

Now you have your Video_TS folders.

Drag the Video_TS.vob file from the DVD (about 1.7MB if I remember) into your newly ripped Video_TS folder.

Open with DVD Shrink. (DVD2One will NOT work, either will Image Tool Burn, however after shrinking (even if not shrinking, and keeping everything 100%) both will.

There you go. DVDShrink seems to be a needed part. ImageToolBurn cannot reallocate the files properly beforehand, unsure why.

I hope this helps!

Seth

[Capmaster]

hmmm damn image will not load..

You put your entire drive letter path in the file name. Only use the file name itself, enclosed with the image tags. Then select the image from your hard drive using the "Browse" button below. Don't preview the post before submitting it.

Remember to keep your file names all lower-case.

Also, for future reference, avoid spaces before or after, or within the file name. The IMG tag bracket should have no space between it and the beginning or end of the file name.

[SaSi]

Looks like a pretty neat copy protection trick. Can take you almost an hour to defeat it .

Does it play on the DVD Player?

Actually, setting DVD Decrypter to ignore read errors and not delete partially copied files is the way to salvage what's possible from a DVD. Reauthoring it with DVDShrink (e.g. create a DVD with movie only), is a way to overcome destroyed menus or Extras VOBs.

[gitreel]

or get the most up to date dvddecrypter.

[nitram]

Just backed up A New Hope, DVD Decrypter 3.5.1.0 File Mode, all files, then full disk mode using DVD2one selective ratio (Medium) - Result: No problems good quality back up. Will try DVD Shrink to test quality but FWIW I have always found DVD2one quality better.

[GreatSinatraFan]

Fandim,

I've followed your advice regarding DVD Decryptor, turned ON the HARDWARE and the SOFTWARE "IGNORE READ ERRORS"..set all "retries" at "0". Then set DVD Decryptor loose to do it's thang.

At 16 files remaining, for the past 10 minutes or so, the Log is stating "FAILED TO READ SECTOR 1986352"- (this number increases every second) then states "NO SEEK COMPLETE".

Uh, is this NORMAL, when trying to rip this copy of "STAR WARS- A NEW HOPE"?

DVD Decryptor's still counting the sectors, still stating "NO SEEK COMPLETE". Still at 16 files remaining.

Will it eventually reach the end of the these sectors, then move on to another file ?

Just wondering if this is a normal phenomenon.

Thanks ~!
Ring-a-Ding Ding !~

[GreatSinatraFan]

Ok, DVD Decryptor went on soooo long doing this, accumulating over 260 read errors..I finally told it to SKIP the VTS_02_4.VOB file, did NOT delete the partial file, and moved on.

Then, I copied the Video_TS.VOB; as Fandim suggested. to the destination STAR WARS folder on the hard drive.

BUT, when I tried to initialize DVD SHRINK, it stated that it could NOT open "VTS_02_8.VOB". DVD SHRINK then refused to continue on.

BUT...here's the kicker...there is NO such file ON the "STAR WARS- A NEW HOPE" DVD. There IS no such file within the destination STAR WARS folder on the hard drive.

Soooo.. I'm totally mystified. I dunno what I did wrong here.

Anyone have any ideas ?

Thanks.

Ring-a-Ding Ding !

[jyn999]

Looks like you'll have to publish your findings for the rest of us to read.

[GreatSinatraFan]

Well; I did the complete process again. THIS time, it worked !~ DVD Shrink is analysing the video now..I only hope that it doesn't run into any problems. (Reauthoring in Movie Mode only.)

I'll let ya'll know how the copy plays when it's done.

Thanks again !~

Ring-A-Ding Ding!~

[jyn999]

Ok, DVD Decryptor went on soooo long doing this, accumulating over 260 read errors..I finally told it to SKIP the VTS_02_4.VOB file, did NOT delete the partial file, and moved on.

Then, I copied the Video_TS.VOB; as Fandim suggested. to the destination STAR WARS folder on the hard drive.

BUT, when I tried to initialize DVD SHRINK, it stated that it could NOT open "VTS_02_8.VOB". DVD SHRINK then refused to continue on.

BUT...here's the kicker...there is NO such file ON the "STAR WARS- A NEW HOPE" DVD. There IS no such file within the destination STAR WARS folder on the hard drive.

Soooo.. I'm totally mystified. I dunno what I did wrong here.

Anyone have any ideas ?

Thanks.

Ring-a-Ding Ding !

What did you do with the VTS_02_4.VOB file and what happened with the phantom VTS_02_8.VOB file?

[GreatSinatraFan]

Well, instead of SKIPPING the VTS_02_4.VOB file; I simply let it continue to accumulate Read Errors; in the hope that it would eventually finish trying to read the bad sectors, then move on to the next VOB file...which it eventually did.

What happened to that phantom file ? God Knows. I've not the slightest idea - but that phantom file wasn't in the destination file; and DVD Shrink was able to analyse the video, and encode..it's just now finished burning. ----5 minutes later---- YES ~! It's a perfect copy ~! Looks great; SOUNDS Mahvelous as well ~!

Thanks again ~!

Ring-A-Ding Ding!~

[MJPollard]

Y'know, I hate to sound like a complete contrarian, but I had absolutely no problem ripping A New Hope. No read errors, nothing. I ripped it on a Pioneer DVR-106 using DVD Decrypter 3.1.4.0 (an admittedly old version, but still works just fine). You can get the specs on my homebrew system by checking the ol' Computer Details button for my account.

What am I doing right, I wonder? Is it the version of DVD Decrypter I'm using? Maybe the moon and stars are aligned in just the right positions? I have yet to do the bonus disc; my luck may end up running out on that one, for all I know.

UPDATE:
Well, I managed to rip the bonus disc without errors, too. In the face of all these people having problems ripping, I'm feeling kind bad. Not too bad, mind you, but a little bad.

[jetfan]

Well, I tried and it took over an hour to rip, I managed to get it all,
I had something like 1600 errors. Two minutes to get past those errors,
kudos to you!. I can't seem to get anything to work with compressing
this thing. i tried DVD2One and that failed many times. I tried Shrink
several times but no luck, after analyzing it says error and doesn't allow
me to go any further! I too, have three year olds, and they already
managed to rip the poster that came with the discs - a bonus from a
local store for pre ordering I guess.

As always, and help would be appreciated.Thanks

[jetfan]

well, I tried the process again, this time using my Plextor to rip it, and
wholaa, it took about a half hour this time and DVD2One did it just fine.

[louv68]

I haven't read all the messages on this post, but here's how I defeated it (which I'm sure others have figured out this method by now.) I ripped A New Hope with DVDDecrypter which choked on VTS_02_04.VOB I chose to skip the file. I then ripped just that file into the VIDEO_TS folder using SmartRipper and it worked. Pretty weird.

[spiderman2k1]

I used ANYDVD 3.8.1.3 had no problems making a back up copy of Star Wars try DVDSHRINK also.