using x264vfw I'm forced to save .avi?

[marcorocchini]

Hi alle the cats,
but I'm wondering: if I use the x264VFW in virtualdub or others, the destination file is forced to a .avi file or is possibile to have a .mp4 (or .mpg) file? thanks

[poisondeathray]

You can use the extra commandline box in x264vfw for other containers . It will make a "fake" AVI, and the real MP4. (.mpg or program stream is not supported)

eg.

-o "PATH\output.mp4"



Or, if you are using vdub, you can use the vdub external encoder feature instead e.g. ffmpeg, x264CLI etc...

[Acesn8s]

or you can use do it the easy way and use virtualdubmod and save the file as .mkv, then extract the raw 264 stream
from the mkv file with tsmuxer. then mp4box or yamb will mux your raw h.264 stream and your audio to an .mp4 file.

[_Al_]

... or export frame server from VirtualDub (first time you run auxsetup.exe before and install handler),
then load that into Avisynth: Avisource("from_virtual_dub.vdr") , and that script you load into any x264 frontend (that accepts avisynth script)

[DarrellS]

poisondeathray has the best answer with the external encoder feature in the newer versions of Virtualdub. All the other answers are all outdated.

It may seem like a lot of work at first but once you have all your encoder sets it's pretty simple. Most of the work has already been done for you if you follow the guides on Virtualdub's forum or if you search here, you'll find a lot of threads to help.

Not sure what happened to all the images but here is the thread at the unofficial Virtualdub forum...

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=18840&

I believe Budman1 has a site dedicated to Virtualdub and the external encoder feature also.

I believe the Virtualdub page here is pretty up to date with plugins and such. You will have to track down all the current command line encoders or you can download Selur's Hybrid program that has most up to date CLI encoders.

[marcorocchini]

You can use the extra commandline box in x264vfw for other containers . It will make a "fake" AVI, and the real MP4. (.mpg or program stream is not supported)

eg.

-o "PATH\output.mp4"



Or, if you are using vdub, you can use the vdub external encoder feature instead e.g. ffmpeg, x264CLI etc...

poison a kindess:

1) can I set the x264vfw to write interlaced .mp4 file? semms to me by the mediainfo that .mp4 is progressive

2) I my beautiful dinosaur Spee Razor 5.51 in sync super professional NLE editor (for cats) I have select the "Mpeg 1, Mpeg2, Asf, DV, etc..." plugin that recall a the list of VFW codec installed on the system. Exist a way to pass the output stream of the NLE directly to ffmpeg, as and external encoder?
3) do you know a AAC encoder VFW that I can install on window 8?

thanks



poison please can you tell me if is a way to encode intelace with this encoder? is there a option? thanks

[racer-x]

Have you tried this command? You should probably place it first.

--tff

[racer-x]

I agree with DarrellS VFW encoder is outdated. You're better off using the external encoder feature in Virtualdub. I have lots of templates made for various encoders and output formats. It works very well. The only thing I can't get configure right is the muxers. But that can easily be done afterwards.

[marcorocchini]

I can try it but have only 1 "problem", I'm forced to export entire project from the nle in uncompressed --> and then open it in virtualdub and save destination.

In this moment I try to understand if there is a possibilty to export "directly" from the NLE into .mp4 (or other format... I also need to re-encode in MXf) otherwise I have to export in uncompressed and open it virtualdub

[racer-x]

Maybe you can contact Debugmode and see if he can write a frameserver for your Dinosaur NLE.

[racer-x]

Anyway, this seams to work on the VFW encoder when I tested it out. Make sure you have the quotes for the "output path".

--tff -o "C:\Jnk\out.mp4"

[marcorocchini]

Maybe you can contact Debugmode and see if he can write a frameserver for your Dinosaur NLE.

mm interesting

really maybe I think, and my cats thinks, we need of a driver :=) to directly decode mxf internally at Speed Razor f.c. or at least mpeg2 or at least mpeg files. Each time I need to transcode in mjpeg avi with a batch file. Hoewver with the morgan mjpeg codec the quality is pratically same. But once the clip are in timeline if I have to re-encode in mjpg and then in mp4 ... is a little bit uncomfortable, and we get quality loss

A little better would be to export directly from timeline, in MP4, and perhaps in MXF

maybe this is not impossible, I'm trying to understand, we try to understand if there is way to use ffmpeg as "external encoder" in association wiht a "dummy" VFW codec ^^

[_Al_]

As long as things work , the methods are not outdated ...

[poisondeathray]

really maybe I think, and my cats thinks, we need of a driver :=) to directly decode mxf internally at Speed Razor f.c. or at least mpeg2 or at least mpeg files. Each time I need to transcode in mjpeg avi with a batch file. Hoewver with the morgan mjpeg codec the quality is pratically same. But once the clip are in timeline if I have to re-encode in mjpg and then in mp4 ... is a little bit uncomfortable, and we get quality loss

A little better would be to export directly from timeline, in MP4, and perhaps in MXF

We already had this discussion before. There are other NLE's that do this natively , import/export XDCAM, even smart render XDCAM (pass through with cuts type editing) , multiple export options MP/AVC , XDCAM/MXF, etc...

maybe this is not impossible, I'm trying to understand, we try to understand if there is way to use ffmpeg as "external encoder" in association wiht a "dummy" VFW codec ^^

Not with "S**** R****"

And ffmpeg cannot read "dummy" VFW AVI directly, unless support has been compiled. e.g. ffmpeg cannot read dmfs signpost directly, has to be routed through avisynth

As long as things work , the methods are not outdated ...

When their are better, faster, more efficient ways to do things, I would argue the methods are outdated

"S**** R****" works, but he's taking a dozen extra steps, incurring unnecessary quality loss, to get the job done


He's jumping through too many hoops

[racer-x]

I think it's more like beating a dead horse.

[poisondeathray]

where's the animated gif racer !?

[marcorocchini]

with the latest enhancement I have do to the package, now SR it is trasformed from dinos to a lion ^^

[El Heggunte]

.....................

He's jumping through too many hoops

lol Lol LOL

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http://www.google.com/search?complete=0&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22churrasco+de+gato%22&gbv=1...og&sa=N&tab=wi

[racer-x]

where's the animated gif racer !?

Here is a quick simulation:

[DarrellS]

I agree with DarrellS VFW encoder is outdated. You're better off using the external encoder feature in Virtualdub. I have lots of templates made for various encoders and output formats. It works very well. The only thing I can't get configure right is the muxers. But that can easily be done afterwards.

You're going about it the right way when experimenting with CLI encoders. Getting the encoder (whether video or audio) going. Getting the other encoder going and then muxing the streams together. You can do that without a muxer (creating just the separate streams) or using special muxers. I have a no-audio muxer and I have mp3 and ac3 passthrough muxers that use ffmpeg.

Somehow, I lost my master vdprof file with all my encoders and encoder sets but here is the one that I have loaded now. Budman1 and raffriff42 were (are) a big help.

[marcorocchini]

but from the NLE I cannot use ffmpeg, the "problem" is that if I want use virtualdub I 'm force to export in uncompressed - > import in virtualddub and then export in the final format


But for example, using the x264 VFW codec I can directly export in MP4.

However if I don't mistake, my NLE can "view" and manage directshow codec: for example the PIC mjpeg codec, when installed, have 1 codec VFW and 1 codec direcshow. My nle recognize both. My problem is that I cannot find a codec (I think directshow only) that allow me to export in MXF xdcamhd422 or MXF imx-D10

Speed Razor can also export natively in mpeg2... but does not have the internal decoder

[racer-x]

I think mainconcept makes such codec if I remember correctly.

[marcorocchini]

I'll check but I don't think. Mainconcept semms to me have mpeg 2 codec and mxf decoder, but not mxf encoder and in every case mxf container for sony cameras

ffmpeg at the moment don't have preset for mxf-sony container: ffmpeg can do generic encoding in mxf but cannot build mxf file for sony cameras and decks (in my case the pdw-f800, but in general the series pdw-700/800 and pdw-HD1500 or pdw-u2)

ffmbc can do encoding only in mxf-sd mode for sony xdcam deck but wrongs encoding in hd